Wilder and Mr. Original ZERO

[RussB23]

Your ability to defend wilder at all costs is suspect. How could you not admit he needs to step up competition and have a quality fight? You keep using boxings **** structure and bogus rankings as excuses for wilder.

Joshua is a household name at this point..

Thats the only way he can defend him is by coming up with some complicated bull**** to justify why he hasnt fought a single live opponent. He cant even deny thats what has been going on so hes just running with it now.

His excuse for wilder not wanting whyte is because "hearn is lying" lol.

[original zero]

Wilder can get a voluntary against any of those guys like he has the past 2 years.

No he can't. His mandatory is due. He's going to have to fight Stiverne unless there is a massive opportunity that justifies spending huge money to convince DKP to step aside.

And it doesnt mean **** if ortiz is a mando, he can still take the wilder fight if he wants. And look , they have whyte right their too along with pulev. Whats the problem?

The problem is you have absolutely no idea how this sport works. Ortiz has a guaranteed WBA title shot. If Joshua doesn't fight him, he'll be stripped. Pulev has a guaranteed IBF title shot. if Joshua doesn't fight him, he'll be stripped. It makes no business sense for either of those guys to fight Wilder right now as a voluntary challenger. When you're a voluntary challenger, you have to sign your life away in the event that you win. Nobody is going to give up a NSA shot at Joshua, who is a much bigger star than Wilder and generates far more revenue than Wilder, to fight Wilder as a voluntary.

You're an idiot fan on a message board. Your role is to watch what interests you. When you start trying to give business advice, you sound like a ****ing ******.

3 solid fights, will he take them? We will just have to see. Something tells me he will take someone ranked lower than all of them

And something tells me you won't be getting laid tonight.

[original zero]

Your ability to defend wilder at all costs is suspect. How could you not admit he needs to step up competition and have a quality fight? You keep using boxings **** structure and bogus rankings as excuses for wilder.

Something doesn't cease to be true just because you label it an excuse. I live in reality. The facts are what the facts are. How those facts make you feel is none of my concern.

Wilder doesn't need to do anything. He could retire tomorrow and live off of his millions just like Fury did.

While it would be interesting to see Wilder fight one of the very best top 2 or 3 heavyweights in the world right now, it's not realistic. AJ is fighting Klitschko and then winner has two mandatories due. So best case scenario for Wilder is to get the Stiverne mandatory out of the way and hope he can get a unification fight next year against the WBO champion or against Ortiz if Joshua is stripped.

Joshua is a household name at this point..

Lovely. Who is dis*****g that? Joshua is the unified heavyweight champion of the world and the biggest money player in the division. All kudos to Joshua. I gladly have him ranked #1 as the best boxer on planet Earth right now and have Wilder ranked #2. I'd love to see them fight and if they both keep winning, in late 2018 or 2019, they will fight.

[RussB23]

No he can't. His mandatory is due. He's going to have to fight Stiverne unless there is a massive opportunity that justifies spending huge money to convince DKP to step aside.




The problem is you have absolutely no idea how this sport works. Ortiz has a guaranteed WBA title shot. If Joshua doesn't fight him, he'll be stripped. Pulev has a guaranteed IBF title shot. if Joshua doesn't fight him, he'll be stripped. It makes no business sense for either of those guys to fight Wilder right now as a voluntary challenger. When you're a voluntary challenger, you have to sign your life away in the event that you win. Nobody is going to give up a NSA shot at Joshua, who is a much bigger star than Wilder and generates far more revenue than Wilder, to fight Wilder as a voluntary.

You're an idiot fan on a message board. Your role is to watch what interests you. When you start trying to give business advice, you sound like a ****ing ******.




And something tells me you won't be getting laid tonight.

He can get another extension like he has been doing the past 2 years. Hes had mandatories do with povetkin and extended that like a year. he can do the same now.

[RussB23]

You're an idiot fan on a message board. Your role is to watch what interests you. When you start trying to give business advice, you sound like a ****ing ******.




And something tells me you won't be getting laid tonight.

lol @ you trying to make this personal now out of nowhere, i must be making you angry or frustrated.

How much i get laid is competely irrelevant to the topic at all, you are now trying to insult me personally which proves i made you emotional.





You mad? Wilder keeps fighting the lowest ranked guy he can, thats a fact dont be mad at me.

[original zero]

He can get another extension like he has been doing the past 2 years.

False. He has not had extensions. It was Povetkin that asked for his title shot to be delayed. You literally have no idea what you're talking about. Then Povetkin flunked a test and then he flunked another test, which caused more delays. But Wilder can't bypass Stiverne now without DKP's blessing and DKP's blessing would be VERY VERY EXPENSIVE.

So Haymon isn't going to pay off King unless there is a massive opportunity for Wilder. Otherwise, he needs to get that mandatory out of the way. As for any sort of exemption that wouldn't have required a step aside fee, it's possible Haymon could have pulled that off for a Parker unification, but Arum ended up blocking the fight.

Hes had mandatories do with povetkin and extended that like a year. he can do the same now.

Wrong. That's not what happened. You have no idea what you're talking about and you have no idea how this business works. Stop acting like you have any knowledge, experience or understanding of boxing politics because you don't.

You're a fan. Your role is to watch the fights you're interested in watching period. If you're not interested in Wilder-Stiverne II, don't watch. If you'd rather see Wilder-Ortiz, I don't blame you. I'd rather see it too. But that doesn't give you the right to lie about the circumstances.

Life isn't perfect. We don't always get what we want when we want it.

[original zero]

lol @ you trying to make this personal now out of nowhere, i must be making you angry or frustrated.

It's not personal. I don't know you and I don't care to. But the personality traits you're displaying make it very clear you live a pathetic life. It's the root of the negativity you project on to Wilder. There's no way to have an honest discussion without pointing out that glaring element of the debate.

Angry? Frustrated? Hahahhaha no. You post false information, I correct you. Just doing my job. I have no emotional attachment to any of this.

How much i get laid is competely irrelevant to the topic at all, you are now trying to insult me personally which proves i made you emotional.

It's very very relevant because lack of sex is the #1 reason you're acting the way you're acting. I'm not insulting you. I'm pointing out the obvious.

[KillaCamNZ]

I've never come across anyone so consumed with others opinions on something. He has this incredible ability to take a paragraph of someones thoughts and turn it into 4 of his own. While I respect the guys faith in whatever he hell he's talking about, it's uncomfortable to think that someone hinges on the actions of a man he's never met, like this. There's retorts, then there's a good yarn, then there's...whatever the hell this guy does. Flood people with obsession.

Anyway, back to boxing. I guess this is why ignore lists were invented.

[Earl-Hickey]

Its kind of weird with 2 or 3 of these wilder fans on here. Ive never seen such nuthuggery over a guy who doesnt even really have a profile.

I think they either work for wilder or are part of his entourage or something

[Tony Trick-Pony]

OZ or Original A$$hole as I call him, hit my ignore list a while back also. A real prick through and through...