Fact: Gennady Golovkin is the best middleweight of all time

[Johnny Steele]

He never lost to Sanderline Williams. I don't care that he lost to HW's like Browne, Peter, Oquendo etc. The fact that he was even able to compete against those guys at that age is astounding. What do you have to say about all of his wins, instead of looking at a handful of losses and trying to retroactively put some other on his resume.

Are you suggesting James Toney beat mccallum and sanderline??

If so, then go fu.ck yourself.

[Johnny Steele]

Quote from McCallum

Best overall: James Toney -- He wasn't a complete fighter the first time we fought, and I still believe I won that fight. But he learned in that fight and he got better. He grew with each fight. By our third fight, he was a different fighter, a complete fighter. He was someone who could do it all, fight inside or outside, work offense and defense at the same time, just like me when I was younger.

Lol. Piss off

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Did you even read your own quote you moron???
He says he beat Toney you f.ucking imbecile...

[BigZ44]

Are you suggesting James Toney beat mccallum and sanderline??

If so, then go fu.ck yourself.

I've never seen the Sanderline fights, but yes he beat McCallum twice fairly

[BigZ44]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Did you even read your own quote you moron???
He says he beat Toney you f.ucking imbecile...

Of course he thinks he won, fighters always think they won close fights. My god, you are impossible. The first fight could have gone either way, Toney clearly won the next 2. Did you just skip over the part where McCallum said Toney was the best dude he ever fought?

[BigZ44]

He didn't beat Drake thadzi, Montell Griffin, Mike Mccallum, Charles Ellis, Lucas Brown, Arthur Willis, Roy Jones Jr, Terry McGroom, Hasim Rahman, Samuel Peter, Danny Batchelder,
Fres Oquendo, Denis Lebedev, Jason Gavern...


People love to scream robbery this or robbery that in boxing.
But The fat racist drug cheat always gets a pass.
James Toney is one of the worst robbers the sport has ever seen. He's up there with Ottke.

And any wins he does have should have asterisk next to them.
This coward is a notorious and prolific steroid cheater.

Toney was a ***** fighter.

Did Toney **** your girl and eat your donuts or something? Why do care so much about the career of James Toney? Was he filling out the scorecards for his own fights?? You act like the dude never had a legit win. The best part is, you can whine and ***** and moan as much as you want, but it won't change a damn thing and I'll still be here sitting back laughing at you popping blood vessels over this.

[Johnny Steele]

Of course he thinks he won, fighters always think they won close fights. My god, you are impossible. The first fight could have gone either way, Toney clearly won the next 2. Did you just skip over the part where McCallum said Toney was the best dude he ever fought?

Fighter always say that about guys they owned.

Did you just skip over EVERYTHING i said because you are a coward who can't admit Toney has had more gift decisions than sven ottke?

[BigZ44]

Fighter always say that about guys they owned.

Did you just skip over EVERYTHING i said because you are a coward who can't admit Toney has had more gift decisions than sven ottke?

Exactly how many gift decisions has he gotten in your estimation?

[Johnny Steele]

Did Toney **** your girl and eat your donuts or something? Why do care so much about the career of James Toney? Was he filling out the scorecards for his own fights?? You act like the dude never had a legit win. The best part is, you can whine and ***** and moan as much as you want, but it won't change a damn thing and I'll still be here sitting back laughing at you popping blood vessels over this.

So
Is this you admiting you lost??

Toney is an over rated bum. Why does it bother you so, that people disagree with your propaganda??

[BigZ44]

So
Is this you admiting you lost??

Toney is an over rated bum. Why does it bother you so, that people disagree with your propaganda??

My propaganda?!?!?! LMFAO. I couldn't care less about how other people rate James Toney. He was a great fighter, period. I never personally liked him that much, but it was pretty easy to recognize just how good the guy was. If you want to claim that he lost every close fight he was ever in, then good for you. It doesn't change a damn thing. Toney will be kicking it in the HOF while you continue to scream from the rooftops that he was a "bum."

[DinoCop]

My propaganda?!?!?! LMFAO. I couldn't care less about how other people rate James Toney. He was a great fighter, period. I never personally liked him that much, but it was pretty easy to recognize just how good the guy was. If you want to claim that he lost every close fight he was ever in, then good for you. It doesn't change a damn thing. Toney will be kicking it in the HOF while you continue to scream from the rooftops that he was a "bum."

Mate stop arguing bcz you, me and the rest of the forum are ignorant basic fans since we haven't watched every single fight we can access being too busy living. If this guy calls Toney a bum James Toney is a bum bcz he watched the +70 fights of him and what we've watched and know don't make any sense bcz we didn't spend 72 hours stragiht watching his fights.
I'd like to know about the other bums we thought to be great, we have already learned that Bhop, George Benton, Robinson were bums. I'd like to learn abt the other bums and who are that qualified to be called as good fighters. Can I say Ali was good, do I have permisson for that?