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  • SUBZER0ED
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    #41
    Originally posted by SonnyboyReturns
    So here we can obviously see the Kovalev's trunks creased out forming a pocket of air because he is bending over. Glad you admit to this.




    Next on impact you can observe Ward's glove hitting Kovalev's top belt line. If the impact was on the groin you would not see this. Therefore Ward's glove impacted squarely on the belt (Krusher logo).

    The combination of Kovalev bending over & leaning forward with his trunks creased out creates the illusion Of Ward hitting low on the groin.

    The only way you're correct is if Kovalev is a mutant born in Chernobyl. He would have special anatomy with his balls attached to his navel.
    You should invest in a good pair of eye glasses and maybe some therapy sessions.

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    • Shadoww702
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      #42
      Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
      The fact that this is so heavily debated obviously means that it is not clear.
      And Ward himself even admits some were borderline.

      My FAVORITE part was when Ward stopped fighting to look at Weeks expecting a warning for low blows. Doesnt get one and is like all right.

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      • Cutthroat
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        #43
        Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
        Only the thumb portion of Ward's glove landed on or near the top of Kovalev's belt line The rest of the glove (fist) landed below that point, which is classified as LOW.
        Weeks said belt line is legal, it was borderline but not a low blow, no way he hit his nuts. Kovalev bending over and his trunks being baggy gave the illusion it was low, it wasn't.

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        • Cutthroat
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          #44
          Originally posted by Shadoww702
          And Ward himself even admits some were borderline.

          My FAVORITE part was when Ward stopped fighting to look at Weeks expecting a warning for low blows. Doesnt get one and is like all right.
          Borderline does not mean a foul.

          Ward stopped fighting because Kov tricked him, the replay clearly shows belt line punches during that sequence.

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          • SUBZER0ED
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            #45
            Originally posted by Cutthroat
            Weeks said belt line is legal, it was borderline but not a low blow, no way he hit his nuts. Kovalev bending over and his trunks being baggy gave the illusion it was low, it wasn't.
            Tell it to Kovalev, he may disagree.

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            • SUBZER0ED
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              #46
              Originally posted by Cutthroat
              Borderline does not mean a foul.

              Ward stopped fighting because Kov tricked him, the replay clearly shows belt line punches during that sequence.
              Tricked him, did he?

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              • Cutthroat
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                #47
                Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
                Tell it to Kovalev, he may disagree.

                Of course, he has a massive ego, he didn't even admit he was hurt by the right hand.

                We've heard nothing but excuses from Kov even before the fight, you can't trust what a guy like that says.

                His team won't stand up for him, JDJ said he should move on from Ward, his other trainer (cut man I believe) didn't stand up for him, even ggg one of his best friends isn't supporting him.

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                • Cutthroat
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
                  Tricked him, did he?
                  Yes, Ward was fearful of getting a point deducted, the replays clearly show belt line blows.

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                  • SonnyboyReturns
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
                    You should invest in a good pair of eye glasses and maybe some therapy sessions.
                    Invest in an anatomy textbook.

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                    • Ake-Dawg
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by daggum
                      so you are saying if 1 percent of the pucnh lands clean and the other 99 percent is low its still clean? thats not how it works in the rules. the ref hismelf said anything below here is low and that landed well below where he said. i dont remember him saying well if the hublot air pocket gets crushed without any damage then its legal.
                      I think the biggest point is that folks have been throwing out these "clear" low blow statements and that only unbiased fans would think otherwise. How is it so "clear" when the rules don't address such a situation where a portion of the glove lands below the deemed borderline? Lastly I think the point of the air pocket statement is that the impact point if the punch may very well be different from the direct straight line of the air pocket especially given that it was an uppercut as opposed to a straight punch.

                      The clarity for which folks have formed these string opinions that they feel should be treated as absolute truth just isn't there.

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