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  • The Viper
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    #201
    Originally posted by soul_survivor
    On a resume with ZERO top class fighters in their prime, you have to start digging andi ts easy to twist history for guys who I guarantee weren't even watching boxing when the fight happened. Corrales was a decent scrapper but nothing more than a b level slugger.
    That all corrales was to me.........agreed............

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      #202
      Originally posted by iamboxing
      His Castillo fight is rewatchable and one of the most entertaining fights in boxing history. He was outclassed by Mayweather and may have not have been elite, but neither was Gatti, but that doesn't make them any less special. They entertained us and were brilliant for the sport and gave fans reasons to tune in. I don't like this new trend of bashing past fighters because they were less skilful than todays boxers. Some deserve to be bashed if they were both average AND boring, but if they were entertaining then they deserve their place in history.
      Let's be clear no one in here is calling Corrales a bum. Me and a lot of others are simply saying he was a decent to maybe good fighter but clearly not great. It was a very good win for money at the time.... but, it's no where as good as a win as beating a prime oscar or mosley or even someone like forest, because those were great fighters especially in thier prime.......this win gets over rated simple as that. I don't care how high he was on the p4p list at the time he still wasn't a great fighter.......

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        #203
        Originally posted by The Viper
        First off RIP Chico, but Seriously every mayweather thead about resume his name comes up immediately.......i remember he smoking alot of low tier fighters, and when he stepped up and fought may he got smoked. he didn't do anything in the fight but follow may around and get jabbed to death..... I understand he was tough guy and a warrior, but alot of people act as if this was a legacy defining fight or something....he wars with castillo were fun and he had a couple other good wins over frietas and casamayor.....but what did he do to have his name mentioned along side mosley, pac and delayhoya or even judah????? Honestly i thought may's win over generao was much better as he was alot more green and inexperienced and still pulled it off.
        33-0 chico would have been a high level win on anyone elses resume but mays ????

        its not that may won, but HOW he won. its a legit great win.

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          #204
          Originally posted by travestyny
          You have no evidence of anything, you bltch. Are you his ****ing doctor?

          When you tell me when the NSAC has ever deemed a fighter to be dehydrated, you let me know. Until then, shut your bltch ass up.
          Originally posted by travestyny
          What???? All of that and yet he apparently passed his NSAC physical? Eat that crow, you dumb bltch

          "Prison Sentence" LMAOOOOO!!!!
          NSAC physician can stop you from fighting if you are extremely dehydrated. It depends on the related signs. Vitals, weakness, lethargic, struggling to make weight, other related health issues .......
          In some cases, its also possible that the fighter will be monitored closely up to fight time to see if there are any issues. It's on a case by case basis.

          The final decision is not an easy one because of money often trumps health and NSAC has been criticized for this often. Still, the physician can give his input. NSAC physician did not state that Floyd was extremely dehydrated. If you heard otherwise, let us all know!





          When was the Diego fight? 2002? Floyd pulled that stunt in 2015 when it was illegal to use banned IVs!!!

          but its cumulative evidence that all points to Floyd being fine and not extremely dehydrated. Evidence points to Diego being extremely dehydrated.


          Diego Corrales: Came in 2lbs over the weight limit.
          Floyd: Came in as he usually did, 146 which was 1lb under the WW limit.

          Diego Corrales: Diego struggled in part due to having the flu/bronchitis.
          Floyd: His pre-fight form said that Floyd was all good. Nobody from Floyd's camp said that Floyd had any health issues.

          Diego Corrales: His team also said that Diego struggled with his weight.
          Floyd: His team also said that Floyd made weight easily.

          Diego Corrales: After initial weigh-in, Diego had to continue to drain himself. He went to a sauna to sweat out 2 more pounds.
          Floyd: We all saw Floyd drinking perhaps 2lbs of fluids!

          Diego Corrales: Fight night, Diego weighed unofficially 146lbs ... While it could have been more but it shows how much weight he had to take off for the weigh-in.
          Floyd: Floyd and his team also said that Floyd made weight easily and weighed unofficially at 149. A number that is similar to some of his other unofficial fight night weigh-ins.



          Diego Corrales: Coming into camp, Diego weighed about 170lbs
          Floyd: Floyd says he walks around 150, 148, 147 and from 30 days out Floyd weighed relatively close to those number!!!! It proves that Floyd's weight was rock solid stable.

          So to say, Floyd's weight was relatively the same but not Diego's!


          Floyd's vitals was good! Examination was good!


          Diego Corrales: Having the flu/bronchitis, one can see how that can play a role in him being weak, drained and struggling to make weight.
          Floyd: Floyd's excuses for his dehydration makes no sense!!!
          - Floyd said giving urine contributed to extreme dehydration .... BS!
          - Floyd said giving 1 tbsp. of blood 10 days before contributed to extreme dehydration .... BS!
          - Floyd said training contributed to extreme dehydration .... BS because in interviews he said that he was relaxing in his final days leading up to the fight ..... (relaxing) which makes sense!


          Diego Corrales: not the only time that he struggled to make weight. Same issue at higher weights
          Floyd: Floyd says he walks around 150, 148, 147 and made weight easily for over a decade!!!



          Diego Corrales: Team admits that Diego was telling them that he couldn't make 130 anymore. It would be extremely hard and draining.
          Floyd: AGAIN, Floyd says he walks around 150, 148, 147 and makes weight easily .... for over a decade!!!


          Diego Corrales: Looked weak, lethargic and struggled in the fight .... going down many times (5X)
          Floyd: Floyd said he felt strong and that when Floyd would hug Manny, he knew that Manny knew that Floyd was feeling strong .....




          Here Floyd gets FloydHype to interview him soon after the IV incident. Only overprotective Floyd fans can believe Floyd's BS of requiring banned IVs!!!!


          "I'm not one particular fighter that has drained himself 20 or 30 pounds. I'm a fighter that walks around at 150, 148... I'm extremely happy with everything...right now," - Floyd IV Mayweather




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          Last edited by ADP02; 09-02-2017, 03:38 PM.

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            #205
            Originally posted by ADP02
            NSAC physician can stop you from fighting if you are extremely dehydrated. It depends on the related signs. Vitals, weakness, lethargic, struggling to make weight, other related health issues .......
            In some cases, its also possible that the fighter will be monitored closely up to fight time to see if there are any issues. It's on a case by case basis.

            The final decision is not an easy one because of money often trumps health and NSAC has been criticized for this often. Still, the physician can give his input. NSAC physician did not state that Floyd was extremely dehydrated. If you heard otherwise, let us all know!





            When was the Diego fight? 2002? Floyd pulled that stunt in 2015 when it was illegal to use banned IVs!!!

            but its cumulative evidence that all points to Floyd being fine and not extremely dehydrated. Evidence points to Diego being extremely dehydrated.


            Diego Corrales: Came in 2lbs over the weight limit.
            Floyd: Came in as he usually did, 146 which was 1lb under the WW limit.

            Diego Corrales: Diego struggled in part due to having the flu/bronchitis.
            Floyd: His pre-fight form said that Floyd was all good. Nobody from Floyd's camp said that Floyd had any health issues.

            Diego Corrales: His team also said that Diego struggled with his weight.
            Floyd: His team also said that Floyd made weight easily.

            Diego Corrales: After initial weigh-in, Diego had to continue to drain himself. He went to a sauna to sweat out 2 more pounds.
            Floyd: We all saw Floyd drinking perhaps 2lbs of fluids!

            Diego Corrales: Fight night, Diego weighed unofficially 146lbs ... While it could have been more but it shows how much weight he had to take off for the weigh-in.
            Floyd: Floyd and his team also said that Floyd made weight easily and weighed unofficially at 149. A number that is similar to some of his other unofficial fight night weigh-ins.



            Diego Corrales: Coming into camp, Diego weighed about 170lbs
            Floyd: Floyd says he walks around 150, 148, 147 and from 30 days out Floyd weighed relatively close to those number!!!! It proves that Floyd's weight was rock solid stable.

            So to say, Floyd's weight was relatively the same but not Diego's!


            Floyd's vitals was good! Examination was good!


            Diego Corrales: Having the flu/bronchitis, one can see how that can play a role in him being weak, drained and struggling to make weight.
            Floyd: Floyd's excuses for his dehydration makes no sense!!!
            - Floyd said giving urine contributed to extreme dehydration .... BS!
            - Floyd said giving 1 tbsp. of blood 10 days before contributed to extreme dehydration .... BS!
            - Floyd said training contributed to extreme dehydration .... BS because in interviews he said that he was relaxing in his final days leading up to the fight ..... (relaxing) which makes sense!


            Diego Corrales: not the only time that he struggled to make weight. Same issue at higher weights
            Floyd: Floyd says he walks around 150, 148, 147 and made weight easily for over a decade!!!



            Diego Corrales: Team admits that Diego was telling them that he couldn't make 130 anymore. It would be extremely hard and draining.
            Floyd: AGAIN, Floyd says he walks around 150, 148, 147 and makes weight easily .... for over a decade!!!


            Diego Corrales: Looked weak, lethargic and struggled in the fight .... going down many times (5X)
            Floyd: Floyd said he felt strong and that when Floyd would hug Manny, he knew that Manny knew that Floyd was feeling strong .....




            Here Floyd gets FloydHype to interview him soon after the IV incident. Only overprotective Floyd fans can believe Floyd's BS of requiring banned IVs!!!!


            "I'm not one particular fighter that has drained himself 20 or 30 pounds. I'm a fighter that walks around at 150, 148... I'm extremely happy with everything...right now," - Floyd IV Mayweather




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            A whole lot of BS once again. Try to pay attention little guy.

            1. You just said that the evidence points to Corrales being EXTREMELY DEHYDRATED. Yet he apparently passed his NSAC physical. Do you admit that NSAC is terrible at diagnosing dehydration or just doesn't give a shlt? Just like I told your dumb ass a long time ago.

            2. According to the rules, the the****utic use exemptions committee DOES NOT HAVE THE ATHLETE'S NAME ON THE APPLICATION FOR THE TUE. This means that when they approved of Floyd's application, THEY DID NOT KNOW WHOM THEY WERE APPROVING IT FOR. They simply reviewed the facts of the case and approved it.

            3. For Floyd to have abused PEDs, this means that these en****** would have had to be in on it:

            A. USADA
            B. The Doping Control Officer
            C. The Paramedic
            D. Floyd's personal physician
            E. The at least 3 doctors in the Independent The****utic Use Exemptions Committee
            F. The independent WADA Laboratory
            G. Perhaps WADA itself


            Again, to involved that many people in this would be idiotic when USADA would only have to stay away when he was taking the IV. You're a moron.

            On top of all of that, an IV would only be able to mask for a PED urine test BY DILUTION!!!! The specific gravity test that the DCO AND THE INDEPENDENT LAB gave for the sample BEFORE THE IV and AFTER THE IV is used to check for....wait for it....DILUTION. You moron! When an IV is used, the sample is NOT allowed to be diluted!

            Plus, since you know so much about Floyd's body, how about you explain the Mosley issue. We know he was dehydrated for the Mosley bout WITH CAMERAS ON HIM and he took something like 5 hours to produce the full urine sample. We know that he gave the partial sample AS SOON AS THE DCO'S ARRIVED. He didn't have an IV that time. NOW HOW ABOUT YOU GO AND DISCUSS HOW HE APPARENTLY HAD NO TROUBLE MAKING WEIGHT, PASSED HIS NSAC PHYSICAL, WALK AROUND WEIGHT, BLAH BLAH BLAH....YET HE NEEDED TIME TO PRODUCE THE FULL SAMPLE. Let us know, f@g.

            All of this, over and over, for years, is because you simply can't accept that he beat your lord and savior. Your butthurt is epic. Give the **** up already. You're a ****ing embarrassment!
            Last edited by travestyny; 09-02-2017, 04:21 PM.

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            • hugh grant
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              #206
              He was Floyd's Jeff lacy. Hyped up but found out

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                #207
                Wow a shocker another thread to downplay the greatness of floyd lol

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                  #208
                  Originally posted by hugh grant
                  He was Floyd's Jeff lacy. Hyped up but found out
                  this.............

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                  • daggum
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                    #209
                    tall lanky guy that was outboxed by robert garcia is floyds tommy hearns and people dare to say floyd is better than guys like leonard.....

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                      #210
                      Because he was fun. But he wasnt on the next level. But the level he was on was entertaining. He was vulnerable and had heart that got him up and fighting to win. Idk who thought seriously that he would hang with mayweather. I think tjat was really something said afterwards. If you watch the eliminator fight on fnf in which winner got jr you will see how vulnerable he was and how susceptible he was to getting hit with jabs and strait right hand. Teddy atlas mentioned it few times and said clearly he wasnt ready for a mayweather levwl fight although he was fun and entertaining and had a heavy slow hands

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