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  • ironmt
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    #11
    Originally posted by Redd Foxx
    Yea, it was weird and disappointing to see The Krusher acting so frail, mentally. He lived up to the "bully" label Ward put on him. That's how bullys go out. With a whimper.
    Very true and very odd seeing Ward as the aggressor against someone like Kovalev.

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      #12
      Hated the stoppage cause it opened the door for excuses.

      Didn't have a problem with it because Kovalev was a beaten fighter looking for a way out

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      • sunny31
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        #13
        I think the majority recognise this was a poor, strange stoppage.

        But one thing people have failed to mention much is that Kovalev's behaviour was strange, the way he bent over was amateurish and he was not prepared at all when he was hurt. He couldn't protect himself, so he bent over in a strange foetal position, when he should have taken a knee. Weeks should have given him a count, after which Ward should have probably had a warning to keep them up. None of these things happened, poor officiating.

        Anyway poor stoppage, and I agree with everyone that says it actually hurt Ward as well as Kova. We didn't get the definitive ending these fights deserved.

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          #14
          Originally posted by ironmt
          Last night you said

          Yes. The blows were low but kov was done and wanted out.

          You know those shots at the very end were not borderline.
          When I typed that I hadn't seen weeks say belt would be ok prior to the fight. They were right in the area weeks said was ok. Still somewhat low but not 5 min worthy.

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          • Kagami Taiga
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            #15
            Originally posted by iamboxing
            He was up 3 rounds, it was a ****ty stoppage no matter how you look at it. If everyone thought like you then fights would be stopped whenever the referee had the slightest inclination a boxer couldn't win regardless of whether he was hurt or not. Tony Weeks is a silly cvnt.
            He wasn't up 3 rounds though so you start off with a false assertion.

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            • ironmt
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              #16
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              When I typed that I hadn't seen weeks say belt would be ok prior to the fight. They were right in the area weeks said was ok. Still somewhat low but not 5 min worthy.
              But the rule states

              A boxer who is hit with an accidental low blow has up to five minutes to recover. If s/he cannot continue after five minutes, s/he is considered knocked out.

              The rule Isn't dependent on the severity of the blow.

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              • iamboxing
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                #17
                Originally posted by Kagami Taiga
                He wasn't up 3 rounds though so you start off with a false assertion.
                He was or even at least on the Sky cards, the main thing he wasn't losing. You make it sound like he was stunned and out on his fight.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by sunny31
                  I think the majority recognise this was a poor, strange stoppage.

                  But one thing people have failed to mention much is that Kovalev's behaviour was strange, the way he bent over was amateurish and he was not prepared at all when he was hurt. He couldn't protect himself, so he bent over in a strange foetal position, when he should have taken a knee. Weeks should have given him a count, after which Ward should have probably had a warning to keep them up. None of these things happened, poor officiating.

                  Anyway poor stoppage, and I agree with everyone that says it actually hurt Ward as well as Kova. We didn't get the definitive ending these fights deserved.

                  He started to bend after he realised Weeks wasn't even going to warn Ward after he got away with a low blow early on in the fight. He was trying to protect his balls, which were probably swollen or bruised up. Weeks is usually a good ref, but he did a poor job on this occassion. Probably semi-drunk.

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                  • Pigeons
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by iamboxing
                    He was or even at least on the Sky cards, the main thing he wasn't losing. You make it sound like he was stunned and out on his fight.
                    Ward was up 4-3 on two of the three official scorecards, Boxing Scene's live scorecard, and plenty of mefia and fan scorecards.

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                    • Kagami Taiga
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by iamboxing
                      He was or even at least on the Sky cards, the main thing he wasn't losing. You make it sound like he was stunned and out on his fight.
                      He looked horrible in that 8th round. He turned his back on his opponent, he begged the ref for help on legal body blows, he ran to the ropes and kneeled over while not protecting himself, which eventually led to the low blow. He was clearly looking fir a way out. Rewatch the round.

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