Mayweather, McGregor, Asterisks, and Other Crap

[koolkc107]

A few observations.

Let's be real...if someone offered you $100M to beat the crap out of some loudmouth who had it coming, you'd take it in a NY minute.

So, no hate for Floyd OR Conor cuz if there are $200M worth of suckers willing to imagine this is actually a fight, more power to them.

Gonna be a lot of folks saying this fight is an asterisk, that it can't be a legit #50, even if Conor is licensed by fight time.

I kinda agree, although it won't make a whit of difference to the record books.

This one is going to count.

But, I do wonder something...if Conor happens to luck up and land something big, makes Floyd go to sleep, will those same folks calling it an asterisk in anticipation of a Mayweather victory be consistent and call it an asterisk if Conor wins?

I am guessing they won't, and maybe those folks need to do some self-reflection on exactly why that is.

If it is an asterisk victory then why isn't it an asterisk defeat?...not that there is a snowball's chance in Hades of that happening.

The story not being talked about much here- tho you know folks will catch up eventually- is the ROYAL SHAFTING Mayweather just pulled off on Golden Boy and K2.

Sucks to be Lil g and Canelo right now.

Sucks to know that at least 2M buys at anywhere from $70-$100 a pop are going to be ****** out of pockets less than a month before what is supposed to be the biggest and most glamorous boxing match of 2017.

Yes, up to 200 million in buy money is going to be GONE before Kid Cinnamon and Grubluvkin throw a single punch.

Pure boxing will take a huge L no matter what happens.

And the MMA delusionaries will see to it.

Might as well line those idiots up now, get those PAYPAL bets socked away as early and as often as you can.

My guess is there will be no shortage of fools willing to bet on Conor.

Good times for boxing fans who know better.

Good times if you are willing to get over any Floyd bias and make them good.

[boxinggod101]

Ill watch the fight just for the event it will be. Its a **** fight but it will be funny while it last. Every fighter would have taken the fight. Manny and Loma said they were down so Im not mad at Floyd for it.

BUT the asterix should be there

[TheCell8]

But, I do wonder something...if Conor happens to luck up and land something big, makes Floyd go to sleep, will those same folks calling it an asterisk in anticipation of a Mayweather victory be consistent and call it an asterisk if Conor wins?

Well there aren't two ways to look at this.

All Conor has to do is make the fight competitive. As long as he doesn't go out like Berto or Gatti did against Floyd, it's going to be a huge win for him and for MMA.

The pressure is all on Floyd here. A loss will irreparably damage his legacy. Anything short of a dominant victory will hurt his image, he'll still be 50-0, but it would badly hurt the sport and legitimacy of boxing.

If this is anything close to competitive, the sport of boxing is the one that's going to suffer the most and will set the sport back for years. MMA will get a huge boost.

Anyways, everyone should enjoy the fight.

[Eff Pandas]

A few observations.

Let's be real...if someone offered you $100M to beat the crap out of some loudmouth who had it coming, you'd take it in a NY minute.

No question

Gonna be a lot of folks saying this fight is an asterisk, that it can't be a legit #50, even if Conor is licensed by fight time.

Thats legit, but one could also argue its not different than at the start of ones career when you fight guys who've never boxed yet you had 100 or 200 fights or whatever. Or its not unlike when guys fight setup opponents which happens all the time including when a guy has won a title. I don't give a f#ck, if its sanctioned it counts in my book.

If it is an asterisk victory then why isn't it an asterisk defeat?...not that there is a snowball's chance in Hades of that happening.

Cuz asterisk fights are basically no win situations. Okay you hit a bunch of HR's, but you were PED'd the f#ck up. Okay you won the fight, but the other guy was 0-0 & you were 49-0. The asterisk defines the no winness of the situation I think you could argue more than it defines the uniqueness of the situation.

The story not being talked about much here- tho you know folks will catch up eventually- is the ROYAL SHAFTING Mayweather just pulled off on Golden Boy and K2.

LOL 100% true. I have zero doubt Floyd didn't rush the fight to lift some buys off of the guys with $100 to spend on a PPV between now & Christmas & will net a positive return on the bigger fight over the better fight in the end & everyone not being delusional knows that. Floyd acts more respectful to Oscar publically most of the time I've seen him talk about him lately, but I still get the feeling he loves twisting the knife on Oscar/GBP.

Pure boxing will take a huge L no matter what happens.

Its definitely a rough situation for any real boxing W to go down. I mean many boxing fans see the James Toney vs Randy Couture fight as a L for boxing & a W for MMA, but ultimately what happened was supposed to happen & the only W up for grabs that night was for Toney. Same deal with this fight. Conor can win, but Floyd can only lose or not lose. The only win he gets reallllllly is the payday.

And the MMA delusionaries will see to it.

Might as well line those idiots up now, get those PAYPAL bets socked away as early and as often as you can.

My guess is there will be no shortage of fools willing to bet on Conor.

Honestly I think I can say as a MMA fan myself that MMA fans are far more reasonable then boxing fans. MMA fans see MMA fighters lose all the time. They are far less impressed with 0's than boxing fans. They are far less concerned with their favorite fighters losing.

But sure there are some dummies out there who'll even money bet on wide odd fights & I'll bet with them any day of the week on any fight let alone this one if I can find them.

[koolkc107]

So we are all agreed.

It is basically a can't win for boxing in a best case scenario.

And downright disastrous if a couple of things go horribly wrong.

[boliodogs]

I have no problem with Mayweather making another fortune by toying with McGregor. Should Mayweather's win over Conor break Marciano's record? Hell no, in my opinion. Marciano made that record by beating guys like Walcott, Louis, Charles and Archie Moore, and no wrestlers. A miracle win by Conor counts as a boxing win. A win by Mayweather isn't a boxing win because Conor isn't a boxer. I guess you believe this fight will badly hurt the profits of Canelo vs GGG. Of course you called them Grubluvkin and Kid cinnamon because you don't have enough class to call boxers by their correct names. If you seriously believe this joke of a fight is going to take away 200 million bucks in profits from the great real fight between GGG and Canelo you are nuts.

[boliodogs]

If Mayweather completely dominates and destroys Conor as expected I don't think it hurts boxing. If Conor wins or puts up a good fight then it does hurt boxing and helps the UFC.

[fathergll]

So we are all agreed.

It is basically a can't win for boxing in a best case scenario.

And downright disastrous if a couple of things go horribly wrong.

In some ways I think it's an easy win for boxing. McGregor won't go the distance. In fact there is zero ****ing chance he will go 12 and this is coming from an MMA fan. McGregor has a better chance of KOing Floyd than this fight going the distance because either the ref will stop it well before or Floyd will stop him.

If this was some kind of modified rules fight where it was with 8oz gloves at 154lbs and 6 rounds then that would be a much more interesting fight.

[koolkc107]

In some ways I think it's an easy win for boxing. McGregor won't go the distance. In fact there is zero ****ing chance he will go 12 and this is coming from an MMA fan. McGregor has a better chance of KOing Floyd than this fight going the distance because either the ref will stop it well before or Floyd will stop him.

If this was some kind of modified rules fight where it was with 8oz gloves at 154lbs and 6 rounds then that would be a much more interesting fight.

I think the gloves are very important here.

It's one thing to hurt a guy with 4 oz mitts, quite another to do it with 10 oz.

I think a lot of folks are in for a surprise concerning how well Floyd will take Conor's shot should he manage to land flush.

And they will be even more shocked at the effect Floyd's blows are going to have- Mayweather is used to hurting bigger men with these gloves on while Conor is new to all of it.

I still see this as a "can't win" for boxing.

A dominant Floyd win and it's a farce; a loss and boxing takes a pretty huge blow.