Comments Thread For: Joshua Granted IBF Exception, Must Rematch Klitschko By Dec 2

[original zero]

FACT: the IBF gave Joshua an " exemption ", so they could have done the exact same thing for Fury..... and they could have made that decision themselves

No. This is 100% false. Once Duva demands the purse bid, it's too late for an exemption. The IBF couldn't have given Fury an exemption even if they wanted to and had they violated their rules to do so, Duva would have sued, gotten an injunction, and had a slam dunk case. You have no idea what you're talking about.

FACT: the WBA did not strip Fury, the WBO did not strip Fury, and the IBO did not strip Fury..... did they, you class-clowns?

Fury was the WBA & WBO mandatory, which the IBF allowed to take priority over their own overdue mandatory because the WBO was next up in the rotation, a system that has existed since Pat English successfully sued the sanctioning bodies on behalf of Evander Holyfield. The IBO doesn't have mandatories because the IBO isn't a recognized title. Fury got his title shot on the condition that he immediately fight Glazkov if he won. He broke his promise. Glazkov's promoter called for an immediate purse bid and the IBF's hands were tied.

FACT: Fury/Klitschko II was the best fight to be made in the heavyweight division at that point in time. They were #1/#2, and Klitschko deserved the opportunity to win his titles back

That's an opinion, but since you struggle with English, I realize you probably don't know the difference.

[aboutfkntime]

No. This is 100% false. Once Duva demands the purse bid, it's too late for an exemption. The IBF couldn't have given Fury an exemption even if they wanted to and had they violated their rules to do so, Duva would have sued, gotten an injunction, and had a slam dunk case. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Fury was the WBA & WBO mandatory, which the IBF allowed to take priority over their own overdue mandatory because the WBO was next up in the rotation, a system that has existed since Pat English successfully sued the sanctioning bodies on behalf of Evander Holyfield. The IBO doesn't have mandatories because the IBO isn't a recognized title. Fury got his title shot on the condition that he immediately fight Glazkov if he won. He broke his promise. Glazkov's promoter called for an immediate purse bid and the IBF's hands were tied.

bullshht !

you just countered a fact with a guess

they could have told her to wait, or arranged step-aside money

That's an opinion, but since you struggle with English, I realize you probably don't know the difference.

that was CLEARLY obvious, you tool

it was CLEARLY the fight to make at heavyweight

why are you here ?

..... it is hilarious that the rules of a THIRD-RATE sanctioning body are more important to you than securing a top fight

[original zero]

bullshht !

you just countered a fact with a guess

they could have told her to wait, or arranged step-aside money

IBF does not allow step aside money. There was no legal way to tell her to wait once she demanded an immediate purse bid. IBF rules are very clear.

You can say "rules doe" all you want, but there was no wiggle room. If the IBF had blatantly violated their rules and not respected the purse bid request, Duva would have had an open and shut case along with a federal injunction quicker than you can say rules doe.

Maybe you haven't been following the sport that long, but in these situations, the plaintiffs have a great track record. Lewis, Oquendo, you name it. A federal judge would have blocked Fury from defending against Klitschko and the IBF would have been on the hook for legal fees at a minimum and possibly a substantial judgement as well.

If you weren't such an idiot, instead of telling those of us who have experience in these circumstances what should have been done, you'd be asking why it wasn't done. Maybe you'd learn something. Clearly you know absolutely nothing about contract law, the court system, etc. Glazkov had clear indisputable rights that could not be ignored. His promoter chose a course of action guaranteed to result in a vacant title ASAP.

Pulev's promoter chose another course of action, which allowed for some wiggle room, enough time for an exemption, time for everyone to work out something they could live with, etc. Pulev's promoter chose that course of action because they prefer fighting Joshua over fighting for a vacant title.

Glazkov's promoter preferred a vacant title, which is why things ended up the way they did.

If you don't like how things ended up, I understand. I agree with you. I don't like it either. But you're like the kid in class who just refuses to learn. If you don't want to take advantage of people like One Punch and I that know the rules and have experience dealing with the sanctioning bodies, suit yourself.

But your broken record routine was old months ago and if you prefer to live in fantasy land, be my guest.

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IBF does not allow step aside money. There was no legal way to tell her to wait once she demanded an immediate purse bid. IBF rules are very clear.

You can say "rules doe" all you want, but there was no wiggle room. If the IBF had blatantly violated their rules and not respected the purse bid request, Duva would have had an open and shut case along with a federal injunction quicker than you can say rules doe.

Maybe you haven't been following the sport that long, but in these situations, the plaintiffs have a great track record. Lewis, Oquendo, you name it. A federal judge would have blocked Fury from defending against Klitschko and the IBF would have been on the hook for legal fees at a minimum and possibly a substantial judgement as well.

If you weren't such an idiot, instead of telling those of us who have experience in these circumstances what should have been done, you'd be asking why it wasn't done. Maybe you'd learn something. Clearly you know absolutely nothing about contract law, the court system, etc. Glazkov had clear indisputable rights that could not be ignored. His promoter chose a course of action guaranteed to result in a vacant title ASAP.

Pulev's promoter chose another course of action, which allowed for some wiggle room, enough time for an exemption, time for everyone to work out something they could live with, etc. Pulev's promoter chose that course of action because they prefer fighting Joshua over fighting for a vacant title.

Glazkov's promoter preferred a vacant title, which is why things ended up the way they did.

If you don't like how things ended up, I understand. I agree with you. I don't like it either. But you're like the kid in class who just refuses to learn. If you don't want to take advantage of people like One Punch and I that know the rules and have experience dealing with the sanctioning bodies, suit yourself.

But your broken record routine was old months ago and if you prefer to live in fantasy land, be my guest.

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[yammy25]

The best argument i have seen on here in months.

[aboutfkntime]

IBF does not allow step aside money. There was no legal way to tell her to wait once she demanded an immediate purse bid. IBF rules are very clear.

You can say "rules doe" all you want, but there was no wiggle room. If the IBF had blatantly violated their rules and not respected the purse bid request, Duva would have had an open and shut case along with a federal injunction quicker than you can say rules doe.

Maybe you haven't been following the sport that long, but in these situations, the plaintiffs have a great track record. Lewis, Oquendo, you name it. A federal judge would have blocked Fury from defending against Klitschko and the IBF would have been on the hook for legal fees at a minimum and possibly a substantial judgement as well.

If you weren't such an idiot, instead of telling those of us who have experience in these circumstances what should have been done, you'd be asking why it wasn't done. Maybe you'd learn something. Clearly you know absolutely nothing about contract law, the court system, etc. Glazkov had clear indisputable rights that could not be ignored. His promoter chose a course of action guaranteed to result in a vacant title ASAP.

Pulev's promoter chose another course of action, which allowed for some wiggle room, enough time for an exemption, time for everyone to work out something they could live with, etc. Pulev's promoter chose that course of action because they prefer fighting Joshua over fighting for a vacant title.

Glazkov's promoter preferred a vacant title, which is why things ended up the way they did.

If you don't like how things ended up, I understand. I agree with you. I don't like it either. But you're like the kid in class who just refuses to learn. If you don't want to take advantage of people like One Punch and I that know the rules and have experience dealing with the sanctioning bodies, suit yourself.

But your broken record routine was old months ago and if you prefer to live in fantasy land, be my guest.

rules doe, you forgot to include the WHOLE post in your reply

why is that..... ???

here, you missed a bit.....

that was CLEARLY obvious, you tool

it was CLEARLY the fight to make at heavyweight

why are you here ?

I told you a number of times, this is not about the IBF

cut your bullshht clown, you were giggling like a little schoolgirl when Fury got stripped..... and of course, you valiantly fronted up to defend the IBF, right on cue..... only to flip-flop - right on cue - along with the IBF, when Joshua handed them a note from his mommy

the fact that you deny the Fury/Klitschko rematch was obviously the fight to make at heavyweight, makes that clearly obvious

you asshat

you went all sanctimonious and " rules doe ", just because it was Tyson Fury.....

otherwise, why the fk would you spend sooooo much time defending that decision by the IBF, on sooooo many threads?

why even bother ?

I don't think I have ever seen that before ?

everyone is either here for boxing, or here for a particular fighter(s)..... but, you are here for "rules doe"

asshat

..... it is hilarious that the rules of a THIRD-RATE sanctioning body are more important to you than securing a top fight

just a reminder of your folly.....

[aboutfkntime]

Fury/Klitschko II, was the fight to make at heavyweight.....

That's an opinion.....

it's great that you have studied up on your " rules doe ".....

..... maybe spend some time following boxing

[original zero]

i have never seen someone post so much in a reply without addressing a single thing written in the post they were replying to . . .

at some point, you have to consider idiocy a talent. about time is like a ****ing savant when it comes to making no sense. kudos to him.

[aboutfkntime]

i have never seen someone post so much in a reply without addressing a single thing written in the post they were replying to . . .

at some point, you have to consider idiocy a talent. about time is like a ****ing savant when it comes to making no sense. kudos to him.

kid, is english not your first language..... ?

I addressed your ENTIRE post.....

" this is not about the IBF "..... remember ?

the funny thing is this..... in my last post, I pointed out that your previous reply intentionally omitted half of my comment..... and yet here you are, accusing me of failing to address your post

funny kid

it is amusing that you think you have mastered EVERYTHING about boxing, except what actually happens in the ring

I truly believe the point has escaped you

as I said earlier, I still don't know why you are here

..... it is hilarious that the rules of a THIRD-RATE sanctioning body are more important to you than securing a top fight

just a reminder of your folly.....

[original zero]

kid, is english not your first language..... ?

I'm very happy to answer your direct question. My first language is English. Since I answered your direct question, surely you should do the same. What is your first language?

I addressed your ENTIRE post.....

" this is not about the IBF "..... remember ?

You're lying. You said Duva could have been given step aside money. When I pointed out that the IBF doesn't allow step aside money, you ignored it. When I pointed out there was no legal way to make Duva wait after she demanded the purse bid, you ignored it.

the funny thing is this..... in my last post, I pointed out that your previous reply intentionally omitted half of my comment..... and yet here you are, accusing me of failing to address your post

funny kid

Your posts are littered with nonsense, so I quote what little substance your posts contain and then I address what I quoted. You on the other hand quoted my lengthy reply and then refused to address any of my positions. You offered no response to the IBF not allowing step aside money. You offered no response to the IBF having no legal way to sanction Fury-Klitschko II once Duva demands the purse bid. You offered no response to me pointing out that Duva would have easily secured a federal injunction just as others in her position have successfully obtained in similar circumstances. You offered no response to me pointing out that Pulev's promoter chose a different course of action, which is what allowed an exemption to be possible. Etc etc.

it is amusing that you think you have mastered EVERYTHING about boxing, except what actually happens in the ring

I've never claimed to be a master, but I have a lot of experience working in the industry. I never boxed and you never see me commenting on boxing techniques or boxing skills. That is not my forte. But I do know the rules of the sanctioning bodies. I am in regular contact with many of the heads of the sanctioning bodies. I am fully qualified to explain why you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to IBF rules, previous lawsuits involving the sanctioning bodies, what the courts have ruled over and over, etc.

I truly believe the point has escaped you

as I said earlier, I still don't know why you are here

I am here because I am paid to be here. So you do know why I am here because I've told you many times.