Boxing Book advice.

**ferocity** · 05-27-2006, 08:07 PM

you should have just bumped your similar post, good luck with the book

**THE REAL NINJA** · 05-27-2006, 08:15 PM

Originally posted by waldorf

I self published a boxing book and still have not had any luck in acquiring any pictures. The book called Professional boxing an inside review of major bouts, it covers, Bowe/Golata I, Morrison/Mercer, Duran/Moore, Byrd,/Ike, Hagler/Hearns, and cooney/holmes. Does anone here take pictures at boxing shows or perhaps can point me in the right direction to get some good pictures to add........ Also, how does one market a boxing book, with boxing not being a mainstream sport.....Curiously I have heard that some photographers will allow pictures to be used for free in a book if they get photo-credit.. is such true. Please post any advice or answers. Thanks....... ......

I'm sure you can find a photographer that will for cred . Market it the way you are now,+ if you have local gyms show the book off there...

not sure i'd just go thru a book pub comp myself

**grayfist** · 05-27-2006, 08:25 PM

While pictures help, I buy books for what are written in them. If you think there are enough like me, I suggest that you drop a number of lines from the book into some threads, or start a discussion about highlights of the book in the various boxing fora all over the net. You can perhaps (if allowed by webmasters) quote directly from the book to spur debates. Cite the title of the book and where one can get a copy. You'll have to tread lightly though: sites do have strict restrictions on plugs. But if you're good enough to write a book, I think you'll be skilled enough to craft a plug that is a non-plug. I think you know what I mean.

Good luck!

I myself have been meaning to write one but, like many of the things I want to do, have not gotten around to doing it.

Time, self-confidence, etc have been the obstacles.

**Da Iceman** · 05-27-2006, 08:27 PM

its not really a mainstream sport. most guys i talk to about sports dont know who ali is. or even tyson.

**THE REAL NINJA** · 05-27-2006, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by grayfist

While pictures help, I buy books for what are written in them. If you think there are enough like me, I suggest that you drop a number of lines from the book into some threads, or start a discussion about highlights of the book in the various boxing fora all over the net. You can perhaps (if allowed by webmasters) quote directly from the book to spur debates. Cite the title of the book and where one can get a copy. You'll have to tread lightly though: sites do have strict restrictions on plugs. But if you're good enough to write a book, I think you'll be skilled enough to craft a plug that is a non-plug. I think you know what I mean.

Good luck!

I myself have been meaning to write one but, like many of the things I want to do, have not gotten around to doing it.

Time, self-confidence, etc have been the obstacles.

good point , I have this one [Reading the fights] sounds a lot like the book he is doing and only has one black and white pic per chap..good book

**-EX-** · 05-27-2006, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by The Iceman

its not really a mainstream sport. most guys i talk to about sports dont know who ali is. or even tyson.

You serious!? Wow all people I know who don't even watch boxing know who they are but they don't know everyone. I told this kid Mayweather was gonna beat Zab Judah on Saturday(before fight), and he said "What the hell IS a Zab Judah" LMAO.

Who doesn't know who Muhammad Ali is?

**grayfist** · 05-27-2006, 08:45 PM

Originally posted by THE REAL NINJA

good point , I have this one [Reading the fights] sounds a lot like the book he is doing and only has one black and white pic per chap..good book

Thanks!

I don't have that book. Had'nt the chance to go near a copy. I'm sure it's good though.

I think many boxing fans (hardcore, if that term is allowed in reference to the sport) want to know details of fights and careers rather than glance at particular episodes of fights. The camera can freeze a singular moment in time and make it even more stark. And that, in and of itself, is its own merit. But boxing is dynamic. Like all other sports, it is motion that makes it exciting. The written language, I think, has a better chance of capturing that motion (especially if done by adept ones) than a series of photographs could hope to achieve. Moreover, and perhaps more important, text lends itself gladly to insight (or, bias too?)

Travelogues and such are quite hospitable to still shots. But, I still have to be informed of a boxing coffee table book that became a resounding success (nodding apologies to Sports Illustrated and Boxing Illustrated, which are proponents of sports visuals, but, nonetheless, include just about the same amount of text as there are photos in their issues). The boxing books I know that are considered great are text.

**THE REAL NINJA** · 05-27-2006, 09:26 PM

one pic i do love from this book is this Cus with a young Tyson..[IMG]http://i56.***********.com/albums/g178/darrenshyrockford/tysoncus.jpg[/IMG] good luck on your book it sounds great. let us know when it's done

**grayfist** · 05-27-2006, 09:34 PM

Originally posted by THE REAL NINJA

one pic i do love from this book is this Cus with a young Tyson..[img]http://i56.***********.com/albums/g178/darrenshyrockford/tysoncus.jpg[/img] good luck on your book it sounds great. let us know when it's done

Cus D'Amato and young Mike. Yes, that's one of those rare and special ones. The ones that speak volumes without any caption. The relationship between the two... Tyson was never the same after Cus died--that's a cliche', I know, but I can't find a replacement that can say it better.

Thanks for the encouragement re my planned book. I haven't really gotten started, but now that I seem to have you in my corner, I am developing some confidence and shall soon find some time to start.

Thanks again!

Boxing Book advice.