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Originally posted by joe kurtz
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My reaction to this is: Oh, HORSE****!
Toney came in under trained & unmotivated & obviously figured that he'd blow Tiberi away in what was a tune up fight. And, whether anyone wants to remember it accurately or not, he almost did. He hurt Tiberi badly in the first round & appeared to be on his way to an early knock out win.
But, to his credit, Tiberi recovered from that rocky opening round & went on to give the champion a VERY difficult afternoon. But, the notion that he "outclassed" Toney is just rediculous. He outWORKED & outPUNCHED Toney during several rounds, but he hardly outCLASSED him in any way, shape or form.
He was just in better physical condition than the dehydrated Toney was & he took advantage of it. But, it was hardly the one sided contest that Tiberi claims. While he was the aggressor & kept throwing punches in bunches, Toney did manage to slip & block many of them as well as counter effectively. And, while Tiberi undoubtably had the edge in the quantity of shots thrown, all one has to do is take a look at photos of Tiberi's face afterwards to see who was landing the quality shots.
Yes, the fight was EXTREMELY close. It could have gone either way. I had it by a single point for Toney. IMO he certainly dodged a bullet against a guy that he'd have chopped to pieces had he been in proper condition.
But, the one of the worst decisions of all time? Hardly. Not even close.
The whole senate investigation thing?
That was just your typical political grandstanding & pandering to the public by Roth looking to get his name in the headlines as much as possible. We all saw where it went...
Which is NOWHERE!
As for the rematch, Tiberi was given every chance in the world to get one & he repeatedly turned them down. HBO offered him a disproportionately high purse for someone of his status & he turned them down. He wanted no part of a healthy, in shape James Toney. He knew he'd get destroyed.
Nope. He decided to stick to his rediculous demand they they overturn the original decision & "appoint" him champion before he fought Toney again, knowing full well that such things were NEVER done & it was just NOT going to happen.
Nope. He just wanted to be able to go through the rest of his life & be able to claim that he was the "uncrowned champ".
Toney came in under trained & unmotivated & obviously figured that he'd blow Tiberi away in what was a tune up fight. And, whether anyone wants to remember it accurately or not, he almost did. He hurt Tiberi badly in the first round & appeared to be on his way to an early knock out win.
But, to his credit, Tiberi recovered from that rocky opening round & went on to give the champion a VERY difficult afternoon. But, the notion that he "outclassed" Toney is just rediculous. He outWORKED & outPUNCHED Toney during several rounds, but he hardly outCLASSED him in any way, shape or form.
He was just in better physical condition than the dehydrated Toney was & he took advantage of it. But, it was hardly the one sided contest that Tiberi claims. While he was the aggressor & kept throwing punches in bunches, Toney did manage to slip & block many of them as well as counter effectively. And, while Tiberi undoubtably had the edge in the quantity of shots thrown, all one has to do is take a look at photos of Tiberi's face afterwards to see who was landing the quality shots.
Yes, the fight was EXTREMELY close. It could have gone either way. I had it by a single point for Toney. IMO he certainly dodged a bullet against a guy that he'd have chopped to pieces had he been in proper condition.
But, the one of the worst decisions of all time? Hardly. Not even close.
The whole senate investigation thing?
That was just your typical political grandstanding & pandering to the public by Roth looking to get his name in the headlines as much as possible. We all saw where it went...
Which is NOWHERE!
As for the rematch, Tiberi was given every chance in the world to get one & he repeatedly turned them down. HBO offered him a disproportionately high purse for someone of his status & he turned them down. He wanted no part of a healthy, in shape James Toney. He knew he'd get destroyed.
Nope. He decided to stick to his rediculous demand they they overturn the original decision & "appoint" him champion before he fought Toney again, knowing full well that such things were NEVER done & it was just NOT going to happen.
Nope. He just wanted to be able to go through the rest of his life & be able to claim that he was the "uncrowned champ".
come on, ur dillusional to think james toney won that fight.. toney is one of my fav fighters but i know he easily lost that and maybe in the rematch he would of kicked tiberi's ass.. the fact is toney lost end of...
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