Comments Thread For: Amir Khan Slams *********s For Bombing, Twisting ****** Faith

[suntzu073]

I applaud khan's coming out and condemning the atrocity which took place in Manchester. I'm a convert to Islam and have been a practicing ****** for over 25yrs now. Islam forbids the killing of children and any non combatants who are not taking up arms against the ****** nation. Executions are only allowed in Islam by trial, sanctioned by an Islamic Court or panel of judges just like courts of law in certain states which carry capital punishment.ISIS Al Qaeda, Al Nusra all have ties to western intelligence apparatuses. Their leadership is top heavy with intelligence assets working for western gov'ts who are purposely destabilizing the entire region. In order to get the public behind this "Bogarting " of the region,on behalf of western corporate and Military hegemony, high profile attacks on western nation's are necessary.Most people don't remember Gladio or aren't familiar with it's 40yr history,esp. in the US. I can tell you The only ****** who would engage in these type of atrocities is totally ignorant of the religion or is pretending to be a ******. Stealing ,Cheating, Killing, and raping a non ******, holds the same weight in God's sight as if done to a ******. Burning houses of worship other than Islamic ones, is a sin.In Iraq, ISIS destroyed the tombs of prophet Yunus (Jonah) and Danyeel (Daniel) This is a desecration. My mother is Christian. No forcing or compulsion is allowed. A big misconception. God forbids forced conversions, simply because, they're not sincere or genuine and are done out of duress and God has no need of this. You either come willingly, or don't bother, because it doesn't count.In Islam, Like the Constitution of the US, Man has an inalienable right of choice. This is granted to all of humanity.However, now I see the writing on the wall. Islam is being scapegoated by ****** imposters to justify what's coming next. This new dystopian age will begin with the ******s and end with everyone else. My advice to all those who have preconceived notions and opinions based on agenda based literature and media, get to know a practicing ****** your co worker ,your neighbor Unlike some other religions there is no hidden or secret or exclusive knowledge only available to a chosen class. You ask a question about the religion, the person being asked if they have the knowledge, is forbidden from hiding or changing any part of the religion to suit individual or societal tastes or norms. You tell it like it is or you don't tell it.******s today are afraid to talk to people about the religion, they just want to keep it in the closet,which in some respects is understandable,but not when when things like this happen It's my duty to eradicate to the best of my ability any misconceptions about my religion,which if practiced according to the Quran is one of the most just prophetic traditions the world has ever seen,and I mean Just. I'm a witness to Islam's justice, fairness and compassion for all. Last statement, No where in the world does an Islamic state exist. Only countries that have ****** populations exists,including Arabia and Iran, although they like to consider themselves as such,they are not.You would have to go back to the Ottoman's prior to WWI. and towards the end it was so thoroughly compromised from within, by the turn of the 19th century, they were a mere shell of it's former state status.

[LetOutTheCage]

All lives matter. And I agree that there is not enough condemnation of perpetual warfare in the middle east. But where is it shown that western powers directly caused the death of 2 million Iraqi civilians? Where ?

There shouldn't be any civilian loss in a warzone - but that is unrealistic. I don't even think there would be such an outcry if the Jihad was carried out against a soldier's base in the UK, for example, but targeting, actually targeting kids at a pop concert is brutal cowardice.

The invasion of Iraq? You know when they said Iraq had chemical weapons but none were found. 2million+ innocent Iraqi's were killed by the subsequent invasion by Western countries and it was all down to oil...

[LetOutTheCage]

With all due respect to Mr. Khan.
I don't think the *********s are twisting the Islamic faith. I think they're practicing it.

I guess 99% of the 1.6 billion must be practicing it wrong then because the majority of them are peaceful.

[peakbay]

People think ******s all come from one big family and know each other:

Charlotte Church: "By their logic men should do more to root out rapists.."

This is part of the problem why would any right minded person have a problem reporting extremists?
Unless they sympathise with them. people don't think all ******s know each other but they do live in community's and go to the same places to worship and are in a better position to spot the signs.

If someone you knew committed **** would u not report it?

[Citizen Koba]

This is part of the problem why would any right minded person have a problem reporting extremists?
Unless they sympathise with them. people don't think all ******s know each other but they do live in community's and go to the same places to worship and are in a better position to spot the signs.

If someone you knew committed **** would u not report it?

The murdering scumbag was reported by members of his community, though, wasn't he? To the MI5 hotline no less. Hell even his own mother is reported to have contacted authorities with her concerns. I'd say those who knew he was a danger did their duty, or at least tried to - isn't it about time to stop pillorying the entire ****** community?

[Citizen Koba]

I applaud khan's coming out and condemning the atrocity which took place in Manchester. I'm a convert to Islam and have been a practicing ****** for over 25yrs now. Islam forbids the killing of children and any non combatants who are not taking up arms against the ****** nation. Executions are only allowed in Islam by trial, sanctioned by an Islamic Court or panel of judges just like courts of law in certain states which carry capital punishment.ISIS Al Qaeda, Al Nusra all have ties to western intelligence apparatuses. Their leadership is top heavy with intelligence assets working for western gov'ts who are purposely destabilizing the entire region. In order to get the public behind this "Bogarting " of the region,on behalf of western corporate and Military hegemony, high profile attacks on western nation's are necessary.Most people don't remember Gladio or aren't familiar with it's 40yr history,esp. in the US. I can tell you The only ****** who would engage in these type of atrocities is totally ignorant of the religion or is pretending to be a ******. Stealing ,Cheating, Killing, and raping a non ******, holds the same weight in God's sight as if done to a ******. Burning houses of worship other than Islamic ones, is a sin.In Iraq, ISIS destroyed the tombs of prophet Yunus (Jonah) and Danyeel (Daniel) This is a desecration. My mother is Christian. No forcing or compulsion is allowed. A big misconception. God forbids forced conversions, simply because, they're not sincere or genuine and are done out of duress and God has no need of this. You either come willingly, or don't bother, because it doesn't count.In Islam, Like the Constitution of the US, Man has an inalienable right of choice. This is granted to all of humanity.However, now I see the writing on the wall. Islam is being scapegoated by ****** imposters to justify what's coming next. This new dystopian age will begin with the ******s and end with everyone else. My advice to all those who have preconceived notions and opinions based on agenda based literature and media, get to know a practicing ****** your co worker ,your neighbor Unlike some other religions there is no hidden or secret or exclusive knowledge only available to a chosen class. You ask a question about the religion, the person being asked if they have the knowledge, is forbidden from hiding or changing any part of the religion to suit individual or societal tastes or norms. You tell it like it is or you don't tell it.******s today are afraid to talk to people about the religion, they just want to keep it in the closet,which in some respects is understandable,but not when when things like this happen It's my duty to eradicate to the best of my ability any misconceptions about my religion,which if practiced according to the Quran is one of the most just prophetic traditions the world has ever seen,and I mean Just. I'm a witness to Islam's justice, fairness and compassion for all. Last statement, No where in the world does an Islamic state exist. Only countries that have ****** populations exists,including Arabia and Iran, although they like to consider themselves as such,they are not.You would have to go back to the Ottoman's prior to WWI. and towards the end it was so thoroughly compromised from within, by the turn of the 19th century, they were a mere shell of it's former state status.

Your sentiment and analysis accords with those of many ******s I know, and I heavily sympathise. I personally find the efforts being made to portray acts of a few fucked up individuals as representative of the faith as a whole, to be both saddening and deeply disturbing, and like you I see a bleak future. Myself I'm an atheist through and through, but ultimately we are all humans and creed, colour or gender should never be the scales on which we judge the value of human life. Peace be with you, man.

[peakbay]

The murdering scumbag was reported by members of his community, though, wasn't he? To the MI5 hotline no less. Hell even his own mother is reported to have contacted authorities with her concerns. I'd say those who knew he was a danger did their duty, or at least tried to - isn't it about time to stop pillorying the entire ****** community?

Well I haven't read any reports about his family reporting him (his father seemed in denial) if they did, they did the right thing but why have a chip on your shoulder about it? What's wrong with asking people to do more and encouraging them to do so? Expecially when the outcome is the loss of innocent lives

[alexguiness]

If you follow the ******* narrative the ******'s are just...misunderstood.

Therefore, using that logic if we 'accept and understand them' they will stop bombing innocent children.

The problem is you cannot just accept an ideology that demands gay people be killed, women represented and subjugated and non believers be exterminated.

The **** ideology was not dissimilar as it made no room to accommodate other faiths or ways of life, and it took total war and millions of dead to defeat that.

[E10Rifle]

Well said Amir Khan.

The sooner we enter a new Age of Enlightenment and become a world full of educated atheists, the better.

[LetOutTheCage]

Well I haven't read any reports about his family reporting him (his father seemed in denial) if they did, they did the right thing but why have a chip on your shoulder about it? What's wrong with asking people to do more and encouraging them to do so? Expecially when the outcome is the loss of innocent lives

That should apply to all communities why single out one community? Where is the pressure on the police, intelligence agencies to do more?

What about the Charleston Church shooting? I didnt see anyone saying white Christians were at fault or should have done more, in fact it wasn't even referred to as a ********* attack (which it was).

Another poster gave you clear examples of people reporting the guy including members of his own family so I don't see you're point at all. Its a complete fabrication that the ****** community aren't reporting ********* activity because they are. These bombings are indiscriminate so believe it or not ******s are also dying at the hand of these *********s (men, women and children).

These *********s have been targeting and killing ******s more than any other community, ******s hate them just as much as every other community.