Comments Thread For: Sugar Ray Leonard: Canelo-Golovkin is 50-50, Not Easy To Predict

[kushking]

Being a great boxer doesn't make you an expect judging how good other boxers are and who who will win a future fight. Mayweather is good at it but Foreman was almost always wrong. It's not really a dead even fight in the opinion of the betting places. They have GGG a solid favorite to win.

Actually odds have zero to do with probability,the odds are only based on who bookies perceive the public favors,I said the same thing before the jacobs fight that jacobs is nowhere near the underdog they were making him & that that fight was actually 60/40. I told everyone on many sites that if lemule can last 7 rds theres no way jacobs gets ko'd like everyone esp. Jez-abel sanchez was claiming in 5-8 rds. I even said That by fight time gigi would only be a 5-1 favorite,I ended up right.

When the bookies make a line their only doing it based on a goal of getting almost even action on both fighters,w. the underdog getting the most bets slightly. That way the bookies don't go bankrupt no matter who loses. Canelo is only a slight underdog in that a bet on him of $100 will yield 140$,thats not a big underdog,that just means the bookies expect a slight edge to gigi & that they perceive the public to slightly favor gigi,due to canelo not fighting at 160 before.
Spence is listed as a much bigger favorite over brook,despite him never having fought a decent opponent,& fighting in the Uk where Brits are given gifts regularly over others.

[richardt]

Sure it is, but this time the target is Mexicans.. besides, he went full ****** just to make clear his post wasn't meant to be taken seriously.

Actually, it was serious. This is by far not his first profile, nor first set of racial degradation's. He has been banned using a number other profiles in the past with various statements where he starts out making racial comments and by pattern then leads into a deeper set of racial insults. Incredibly easy to spot, regardless of profile used. And opposite to reform, he insists he will create more profiles if banned - just to continue with racial insults instead of refraining from them.

[aboutfkntime]

Ok be honest time. Do you think ggg can get a dec? Or will he have to knock him out? I'm curious as to what you honestly believe

?????

I honestly believe that Canelo will decision Golovkin

and yes of course GGG can win, I just don't think he will

I am aware of the fun " GGG will KTFO Canelo " narrative, but I can't see it..... Canelo is going to give Golovkin fits

GGG simply does not one-punch guys, and Canelo is elite

he will be beating him to the punch all night..... making him miss, then making him pay..... most of the eye-catching stuff will be coming from Canelo

Canelo will beat him with skill, but they need to work on good counters for Golovkin's somewhat-predictable attack..... and they will need to stick to the gameplan for 12 rounds

I wouldn't be surprised if Golovkin won, and I expect the fight to be highly competitive for the most part..... but I have Canelo a 55/45 favorite right now

I actually have a phenomenal pick record, but I would not bet a dollar on that fight..... or any similar such fights..... too experienced/smart for that..... I look for the money, where EVERYONE is picking the guy that will most likely lose (often based on style), like Mayweather/Pacquiao..... it happens very rarely, which is why I very rarely bet..... but Ward/Kovalev is starting to bend that way

the bookies will have that fight very close by the time the bell rings for round 1

[aboutfkntime]

Actually odds have zero to do with probability,the odds are only based on who bookies perceive the public favors,I said the same thing before the jacobs fight that jacobs is nowhere near the underdog they were making him & that that fight was actually 60/40. I told everyone on many sites that if lemule can last 7 rds theres no way jacobs gets ko'd like everyone esp. Jez-abel sanchez was claiming in 5-8 rds. I even said That by fight time gigi would only be a 5-1 favorite,I ended up right.

When the bookies make a line their only doing it based on a goal of getting almost even action on both fighters,w. the underdog getting the most bets slightly. That way the bookies don't go bankrupt no matter who loses. Canelo is only a slight underdog in that a bet on him of $100 will yield 140$,thats not a big underdog,that just means the bookies expect a slight edge to gigi & that they perceive the public to slightly favor gigi,due to canelo not fighting at 160 before.
Spence is listed as a much bigger favorite over brook,despite him never having fought a decent opponent,& fighting in the Uk where Brits are given gifts regularly over others.

exactly !!

[kushking]

?????

I honestly believe that Canelo will decision Golovkin

and yes of course GGG can win, I just don't think he will

I am aware of the fun " GGG will KTFO Canelo " narrative, but I can't see it..... Canelo is going to give Golovkin fits

GGG simply does not one-punch guys, and Canelo is elite

he will be beating him to the punch all night..... making him miss, then making him pay..... most of the eye-catching stuff will be coming from Canelo

Canelo will beat him with skill, but they need to work on good counters for Golovkin's somewhat-predictable attack..... and they will need to stick to the gameplan for 12 rounds

I wouldn't be surprised if Golovkin won, and I expect the fight to be highly competitive for the most part..... but I have Canelo a 55/45 favorite right now

I actually have a phenomenal pick record, but I would not bet a dollar on that fight..... or any similar such fights..... too experienced/smart for that..... I look for the money, where EVERYONE is picking the guy that will most likely lose (often based on style), like Mayweather/Pacquiao..... it happens very rarely, which is why I very rarely bet..... but Ward/Kovalev is starting to bend that way

the bookies will have that fight very close by the time the bell rings for round 1

Very good points,that makes a lot of sense on the ward fight,but right now its at almost the same as nelo vs gg within 5$. Ward vs kovalev line is ward -160 kov +130.Canelo has moved 10$ already so there must be a lot of action on him. ward being -160 is still a good bet. He should be heavily favored for a easy decision,as kovalev will gas out due to anger & wanting the ko,ward will get easy UD trust me too on that.

[aboutfkntime]

Very good points,that makes a lot of sense on the ward fight,but right now its at almost the same as nelo vs gg within 5$. Ward vs kovalev line is ward -160 kov +130.Canelo has moved 10$ already so there must be a lot of action on him. ward being -160 is still a good bet. He should be heavily favored for a easy decision,as kovalev will gas out due to anger & wanting the ko,ward will get easy UD trust me too on that.

oh, i meant the Canelo fight. I think those odds could be pretty even by fightnight, once the late money comes in

[Lester Tutor]

Did Sugar Ray give hints to Nelo like with his fight with Hagler? Or did Nelo move around like Khan?