Comments Thread For: Canelo's Trainer: We're Going To Make A lot of Noise at 160!

[Ce1ska]

NOBODY questioned the fact that Canelo struggles to make weight

FACT: so does everyone else

FACT: if you can make 154, and be healthy for 12 rounds, then you are a JMW..... regardless as to your rehydration weight

that is the very basics of boxing, and it applies to everyone

the clowns who ran around calling 155 middleweight know nothing about boxing or making weight

So when he fights a 155, what weight class is he fighting in?

[Ce1ska]

NOBODY questioned the fact that Canelo struggles to make weight

Here's Oscar saying Canelo is fighting at 154 (Smith) because his body isn't ready for 160.
September 2016.

https://********/9l1fbgBPIEU

If your boxer is struggling to make 155, why would he move down to 154? Canelo also claimed he didn't care about the belts so what's the reason?

[kushking]

Here's Oscar saying Canelo is fighting at 154 (Smith) because his body isn't ready for 160.
September 2016.

https://********/9l1fbgBPIEU

If your boxer is struggling to make 155, why would he move down to 154? Canelo also claimed he didn't care about the belts so what's the reason?

How hard is it for you to understand that when your the ppv star you can slowly start doing certain things to get ready for moving up while still fighting @ same weight class. Canelos supposed to jump in weight from where hes fought,& he's supposed to give gigi 45%,& hes supposed to do it immediately because gigi used a gifted vacant belt to force purse bid?

Get it through your head,the minute gigi forced a 15 day deadline for a fight this big while canelo was testifying in florida & refused to accept less than 40% to avoid purse bid it was obvious that canelo would get an easy belt,staying busy while working on certain aspects of his game,& fight him in September,on his terms & with everything in his favor,how is it a big deal for canelo to take favorable fights for a yr,hes only 26 & the cash cow,gigis 35 & barely draws,why should canelo keep jumping into the shark tank every fight in unfavorable circumstances,when he knew he would be fighting gigi in sept.,& Gigis whole career was vs puffed up welters & cherries ?

He has the current p4p no1 on boxrec 4 a reason,hes sacrificed to make biggest toughest fights as the b side several times,& yet only if he gives gg every conceivable advantage would you stop being so rediculous. Gigi picked a welter & forced him to jump 2 divisions,he signed up to fight jacobs,do you think canelo was supposed to take on killers when he knew he was fighting gigi in September,gigi was negotiating w jacobs & signed with him 4 mos. But somehow canelos ducking for not giving into his $$ demands?

[TonyGe]

How hard is it for you to understand that when your the ppv star you can slowly start doing certain things to get ready for moving up while still fighting @ same weight class. Canelos supposed to jump in weight from where hes fought,& he's supposed to give gigi 45%,& hes supposed to do it immediately because gigi used a gifted vacant belt to force purse bid?

Get it through your head,the minute gigi forced a 15 day deadline for a fight this big while canelo was testifying in florida & refused to accept less than 40% to avoid purse bid it was obvious that canelo would get an easy belt,staying busy while working on certain aspects of his game,& fight him in September,on his terms & with everything in his favor,how is it a big deal for canelo to take favorable fights for a yr,hes only 26 & the cash cow,gigis 35 & barely draws,why should canelo keep jumping into the shark tank every fight in unfavorable circumstances,when he knew he would be fighting gigi in sept.,& Gigis whole career was vs puffed up welters & cherries ?

He has the current p4p no1 on boxrec 4 a reason,hes sacrificed to make biggest toughest fights as the b side several times,& yet only if he gives gg every conceivable advantage would you stop being so rediculous. Gigi picked a welter & forced him to jump 2 divisions,he signed up to fight jacobs,do you think canelo was supposed to take on killers when he knew he was fighting gigi in September,gigi was negotiating w jacobs & signed with him 4 mos. But somehow canelos ducking for not giving into his $$ demands?

So how did he force aa welter to jump two divisions?

[Progrssive_Jedi]

??? Say what you mean. MEan what you say. If you say ANYONE from 154-168 then do it!

So you admit then GGG is Team BS???

Well was Ward bs when him and hunter claimed they'd be HW champ by age 30. Honestly, Ward has never fought at SMW since he was willing to supposedly fight ggg.

But more importantly,Netherlands statement is a blanket verity, doesn't mean he has to do it on anyone timeline. Ward waited until ggg had bigger money fights swinging his way.

Actually he finally went to 160 and fight GGG because there are legitimate champions at 154 that will give him trouble....like the Charlo brothers...he just chickened out, afraid of another loss that will surely bring his status below....

One Charlo, the good one is at 160.

Your so re-tarded EVERY fighter gains around the same amount as canelo,only true twats wont quit with this horseshlt about rehydration. wgaf? HEIGHT IS THE TRUE DETERMINANT OF WEIGHT CLASS ABOVE ANY OTHER FACTOR. Gigi is 5'11 & has never fought below 160 even in amatuers,canelo started as around welter & is 5'9",gigis exact words 2 mos. ago"I can make 154 easily,I would make 154 for floyd(4 less $$ than vs canelo) yet this clown refused 155 to become lineal mw v cotto,he took step aside $ instead like a hypocrit bltch," only a twat keeps going on about this dumb ***ggot claims like that canelo struggling to make weight is relevant,(esp. Considering his last fight b4 jr was @ 154 not 155 dumbfvk)& ftr I seen this interview & chepo reynoso said"le estaba costando mas" meaning it was costing him more to make weight,his last opponent liam smith didnt make weight at 154 his last fight & didnt get the belt he would've if he did,charlo is 6' & makes jmw,spence is bigger than nelo & makes ww,as did mayweather. .

You're wrong about a lot of this. Actually GGG started amateurs at WW. If GGG would have been Mexican and had a pro boxing screen and maybe woukd gave turned pro young too.

At 19 ggg was a WW. At 15 Canelo was a WW.

GGG fought Olympics at MW.

Mire importantly, both GGG and Canelo were fighting at MW at age 25.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

How hard is it for you to understand that when your the ppv star you can slowly start doing certain things to get ready for moving up while still fighting @ same weight class. Canelos supposed to jump in weight from where hes fought,& he's supposed to give gigi 45%,& hes supposed to do it immediately because gigi used a gifted vacant belt to force purse bid?

Get it through your head,the minute gigi forced a 15 day deadline for a fight this big while canelo was testifying in florida & refused to accept less than 40% to avoid purse bid it was obvious that canelo would get an easy belt,staying busy while working on certain aspects of his game,& fight him in September,on his terms & with everything in his favor,how is it a big deal for canelo to take favorable fights for a yr,hes only 26 & the cash cow,gigis 35 & barely draws,why should canelo keep jumping into the shark tank every fight in unfavorable circumstances,when he knew he would be fighting gigi in sept.,& Gigis whole career was vs puffed up welters & cherries ?

Jump in the shark tank, lol! How about he at least stay out of the kiddy pool.

You seriously buy that whole forced deadline bs.

First, they first said they'd do it t after Cotto, and cut off negotiations specifically until after Khan. They asked for that, no one forced them. They were granted it by the WBC with no complaint from k2.

Only after the Khan fight when Canelo called ggg into the ring did they then complain about the time.

And even then k2 said they'd ask WBC force more time, Golden Boy didn't want more time to negotiate. They wanted more time to get some paydays while hoping Golovkin ages some.

[Ce1ska]

How hard is it for you to understand that when your the ppv star you can slowly start doing certain things to get ready for moving up while still fighting @ same weight class. Canelos supposed to jump in weight from where hes fought,& he's supposed to give gigi 45%,& hes supposed to do it immediately because gigi used a gifted vacant belt to force purse bid?

Get it through your head,the minute gigi forced a 15 day deadline for a fight this big while canelo was testifying in florida & refused to accept less than 40% to avoid purse bid it was obvious that canelo would get an easy belt,staying busy while working on certain aspects of his game,& fight him in September,on his terms & with everything in his favor,how is it a big deal for canelo to take favorable fights for a yr,hes only 26 & the cash cow,gigis 35 & barely draws,why should canelo keep jumping into the shark tank every fight in unfavorable circumstances,when he knew he would be fighting gigi in sept.,& Gigis whole career was vs puffed up welters & cherries ?

He has the current p4p no1 on boxrec 4 a reason,hes sacrificed to make biggest toughest fights as the b side several times,& yet only if he gives gg every conceivable advantage would you stop being so rediculous. Gigi picked a welter & forced him to jump 2 divisions,he signed up to fight jacobs,do you think canelo was supposed to take on killers when he knew he was fighting gigi in September,gigi was negotiating w jacobs & signed with him 4 mos. But somehow canelos ducking for not giving into his $$ demands?

Lol not sure what you're going on about, just pointing out that Oscar is contradicting what Canelo's trainer said. Reynoso said: "The truth is that we struggled with the weight the last few fights..." So he's probably been having trouble making weight since Cotto so it doesn't make sense for him to move down to 154. I never said he should face GGG as his first 160 opponent but if your boxer is struggling to make weight he should move up. Why not go up and face Monroe, Murray etc...?

They knew once he jumped up to 160 he would have to fight GGG within two fights so they stalled by moving down to 154. Now that they jumped up to 165 they can't use the jmw excuse.

why should canelo keep jumping into the shark tank

Smith
Khan
Old Cotto
Kirkland

I wouldn't exactly call that a shark tank...

But somehow canelos ducking for not giving into his $$ demands?

No, he was ducking because he moved down to 154 while he was already struggling to make 155. It makes no sense to do that to your body.

[aboutfkntime]

155 isn't considered a middle weight bout?? That's odd. Could've sworn that for years middle weight was considered anywhere from 155-160.

So when he fights a 155, what weight class is he fighting in?

You're wrong about a lot of this. Actually GGG started amateurs at WW. If GGG would have been Mexican and had a pro boxing screen and maybe woukd gave turned pro young too.

At 19 ggg was a WW. At 15 Canelo was a WW.

GGG fought Olympics at MW.

Mire importantly, both GGG and Canelo were fighting at MW at age 25.

what other middleweight weighed 155 ?

I heard all that "155=middleweight" rubbish for years.....

actually, it was only for about a year..... ever since Canelo asked Golovkin to live up to that 154-168 schtick..... only then did 155 become middleweight

..... and I thought that rubbish was exposed when Canelo won the WBO junior middleweight title, at 154 ?

those fights were not middleweight bouts..... he fought JMW opponents 1lb over the JMW limit..... get a grip..... THEN, he made 154 for Smith

what other middleweight weighed 155 ?

and, if 155 is middleweight..... then why wouldn't Golovkin fight Canelo at "middleweight".....?

oh right, because 155 is not MW..... 160 is MW

you guys were not lame for pulling that weak "155=middleweight" stuff.....

.... you guys were lame for making weak excuses to justify why Lovekin did not live up to his promise to fight Canelo at 154.....


"Golovkin made it clear that he would fight anyone from 154-168, including Andre Ward and Canelo Alvarez..... "I can make middleweight and I can still make jr. middleweight".....

http://thaboxingvoice.com/golovkin-aims-high-and-low-would-fight-ward-at-168-and-canelo-at-154/15398/?var=no

I remember

[aboutfkntime]

chill you crybabys, the fight is signed.....

the A-side conceded on the weight

..... because the crybaby B-side shat the bed over that 154-168 baloney

[aboutfkntime]

Saunders will get it next

Canelo will unify middleweight, after talking about it for 10 minutes

how long was that other guy talking about it ?