Mayweather and Ward lower expectations to win rounds...

[Larry the boss]

You know exactly what he's on about...may vs pac and ward vs kovalev.

floyd outlanded and out threw Manny

[Metho_4u]

Let's not talk records let's talk skills. Ward is not on Mayweather's level.

That's fine, I don't think many are on Floyd's level

[daggum]

floyd outlanded and out threw Manny

except if you actually watch the fight....he did not and pac certainly landed the cleaner shots but those don't matter because we have inaccurate numbers to distract from the truth

oh yea and didnt you create a thread a mere couple weeks ago about how compubox only matters to people when it fits their agenda......so who won castillo-floyd 1?

now lets sit back and watch the incredible flip-flopping man flop around like a dying fish

[Larry the boss]

except if you actually watch the fight....he did not and pac certainly landed the cleaner shots but those don't matter because we have inaccurate numbers to distract from the truth

oh yea and didnt you create a thread a mere couple weeks ago about how compubox only matters to people when it fits their agenda......so who won castillo-floyd 1?

now lets sit back and watch the incredible flip-flopping man flop around like a dying fish

dude floyd beat manny and easily...post the round by round card for castillo..fights are scored PER ROUND

[Metho_4u]

except if you actually watch the fight....he did not and pac certainly landed the cleaner shots but those don't matter because we have inaccurate numbers to distract from the truth

oh yea and didnt you create a thread a mere couple weeks ago about how compubox only matters to people when it fits their agenda......so who won castillo-floyd 1?

now lets sit back and watch the incredible flip-flopping man flop around like a dying fish

Wahhhhhhhh, wahhhhhhhhhh

[Tony Trick-Pony]

They are so low volume and defensive first that when they fight, especially against normally high volume fighters, the low activity rounds automatically go to them. EVEN if they are outlanded.

because people have this expectation that Mayweather and Kovalev are lowering their opponents output with their defense.

That is a psychological con you see...

the fact is, when you throw 10 hugs around and run around the rest of the time.... of course that's going to lower your opponents offensive output.



"THAT'S SKILLZ DOE! I WANNA SEE MAN HUGGING!"

These pimped idiots.





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It definitely seems that way. The defensive fighter tends to get the benefit of the doubt in their cases although I've seen the aggressor get credit for action when lesser known fighters are involved.

[Real King Kong]

floyd outlanded and out threw Manny

We all know this. I'm not trying to reveal what's in the mind of a pact@rd...I'm just saying that's what it's about. Didn't you see the hugging video and the slowmo video showing pac outlanded him?

[NaijaD]

What they're masterful of is "PACE CONTROL"! Wlad and Vitali was great at this as well and when Wlad didn't controlled pace he was getting knocked out and dropped BUT when he started to slow things down he dominated for a Decade or so easily. Yeah it is boring absolutely but Mayweather, Wlad, Vitali end up getting longevity out of their careers and will have retired from the sport as GREATS and LEGENDS while that other guy you find more exciting are only remembered by people like Jim Lampley and people like him might make a list and name it after you (RIP to Gatti with all due respect).

I don't expect Teenagers to think that deeply when it comes to boxing, most on this forum in particular likely have un-diagnosed ADHD they will NEVER truly understand the sport of boxing so knockouts and boxrec KO% is the only thing they will ever go by!

As for Clinching, Watch and Learn Children, Clinching been part of the sport before your grandparents was born, that is NOT going to change because you don't like it lol yes Canelo will use the Clinch for GGG he would be a fool not to use it to throw off GGG's rhythm and to avoid getting hit clean by his Power:


nobody want to learn anything, they feel they know enough and it is nothing left to learn and because they don't get what they want to see they b1tch and complain about it hoping I guess that somebody in boxing will see their complaining and change things but that will never happen. Clinching will ALWAY be apart of boxing and as long as guy BREAK when the Ref say Break no you will NOT see guys get DQ'd or have Points taken away for it EVER

Excellent post!

Green K'd

[The D3vil]

What they're masterful of is "PACE CONTROL"! Wlad and Vitali was great at this as well and when Wlad didn't controlled pace he was getting knocked out and dropped BUT when he started to slow things down he dominated for a Decade or so easily. Yeah it is boring absolutely but Mayweather, Wlad, Vitali end up getting longevity out of their careers and will have retired from the sport as GREATS and LEGENDS while that other guy you find more exciting are only remembered by people like Jim Lampley and people like him might make a list and name it after you (RIP to Gatti with all due respect).

I don't expect Teenagers to think that deeply when it comes to boxing, most on this forum in particular likely have un-diagnosed ADHD they will NEVER truly understand the sport of boxing so knockouts and boxrec KO% is the only thing they will ever go by!

As for Clinching, Watch and Learn Children, Clinching been part of the sport before your grandparents was born, that is NOT going to change because you don't like it lol yes Canelo will use the Clinch for GGG he would be a fool not to use it to throw off GGG's rhythm and to avoid getting hit clean by his Power:


nobody want to learn anything, they feel they know enough and it is nothing left to learn and because they don't get what they want to see they b1tch and complain about it hoping I guess that somebody in boxing will see their complaining and change things but that will never happen. Clinching will ALWAY be apart of boxing and as long as guy BREAK when the Ref say Break no you will NOT see guys get DQ'd or have Points taken away for it EVER

So much ether in this post.

[chitownfightfan]

You make no sense..especially with Mayweather..he literally out lands his opponents by alot and really is not a low output fighter..the longer the fight goes the more he throws and comes forward..and Ward also is not low output..maybe you should actually watch ALL OF THEIR FIGHTS

OK, Floyd can outpoint a guy punch for punch drilling em with R cross counters and check hooks, power punches that back his man up.

Ward......don't even put him in the same breathe.
Best fighter Ward has ever hurt, save Kessler with those head launches, is Shelby Pudwill