Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder - Who Has More Power? Poll

Collapse
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #81
    Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
    C'mon man! This isn't even close; Deontay Wilder. The bomb squad has that one punch equalizing power, to the point where you'll never know what punch he is going to throw to finish the job.
    Which common opponent or similar caliber of opposition did Deontay Wilder knockout more impressively than Anthony Joshua or even Alexander Povetkin with his supposed 'one punch equalizing power'? I'll await!

    I can knockout hundreds of ten year old children with my suppose 'one punch equalizing power'. However, it doesn't mean my punchers are therefore more powerful than Anthony Joshua's.

    Comment


    • #82
      Originally posted by NahMean View Post
      ***Hadn’t lost in a decade…

      TBH the fight should have been stopped on the second knockdown in the fight..he was clearly hurt.

      AJ wasn’t landing on Vlad while he was on the rope, true but this is a boxing match. Vlad didn’t land a single shot in round 11.. when one fighter isn’t throwing anything back and is just surviving in the ring by dodging punches, that’s no longer a boxing match.. that’s not a fight.. and boxing rules state fight can be stopped if it’s a one way washout.
      Im not sure the term one way washout could be used to describe any part of the wlad joshua fight.

      Comment


      • #83
        Originally posted by Tabaristio View Post
        Which common opponent or similar caliber of opposition did Deontay Wilder knockout more impressively than Anthony Joshua or even Alexander Povetkin with his supposed 'one punch equalizing power'? I'll await!

        I can knockout hundreds of ten year old children with my suppose 'one punch equalizing power'. However, it doesn't mean my punchers are therefore more powerful than Anthony Joshua's.

        Wlad's got plenty of caliber, and a weak as **** chin. This thread isn't about if they can connect it's about what happens after they connect. Wlad goes to sleep easy, always has. The hardest part about KO'ing Wlad is getting to him not having the power. So in what way does caliber of opposition suggest KO power? It doesn't.

        Same opponents is stupid too, one person got the benefit of fighting after the other didn't they? Plenty of guys on Marciano's record got hurt by Marciano kept fighting and got KO'd even quicker by lesser fighters and retired claiming they never recovered from the Rock fight. Those nameless dudes though totally proved they have more power by KOing Rock's leftovers more quickly yeah?

        Unless by caliber you mean constitution or chin or some such similar nonsense that post is three dumb**** thoughts away from full-blow tarded

        Comment


        • #84
          Originally posted by jas View Post
          wilder put malik scott down and out with limited leverage

          Comment


          • #85
            Originally posted by Rockybigblower View Post
            Im not sure the term one way washout could be used to describe any part of the wlad joshua fight.
            In round 11 Wlad got dropped twice, was hurt really bad and didn't land a single shot on AJ... Not one shot.

            The point where one guy becomes a punching and is only surviving by defending himself, that's not a fight.. That's bullying. That round was a washout.

            Comment


            • #86
              Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post
              Wlad's got plenty of caliber, and a weak as **** chin. This thread isn't about if they can connect it's about what happens after they connect. Wlad goes to sleep easy, always has. The hardest part about KO'ing Wlad is getting to him not having the power. So in what way does caliber of opposition suggest KO power? It doesn't.

              Same opponents is stupid too, one person got the benefit of fighting after the other didn't they? Plenty of guys on Marciano's record got hurt by Marciano kept fighting and got KO'd even quicker by lesser fighters and retired claiming they never recovered from the Rock fight. Those nameless dudes though totally proved they have more power by KOing Rock's leftovers more quickly yeah?

              Unless by caliber you mean constitution or chin or some such similar nonsense that post is three dumb**** thoughts away from full-blow tarded

              It's been statistically PROVEN as FACT that there are two main factors which effects a boxer's KO percentage / record, quality of opposition plus weight of opposition.

              Based on consistency, boxers have always had their KO% decrease as they stepped up in competition, plus began fighting opponents heavier than themselves. This applies to every weight division, including heavyweight.

              An example of weight affecting KO percentage of a boxer is Manny Pacquiao. As soon as he stepped up to welterweight, he hasn't been able to KO anybody for roughly half a decade now. Yet, he was knocking opponents senseless consistently when fighting opponents below the welterweight division. There are many other examples of this.

              Examples of quality of opposition affecting KO percentages of boxers are Joseph Parker and Keith Thurman. Both knocked practically every one of their low ranked opposition, where they're power looked formidable. However, since their recent step up in competition, both of their knockout quan****** have reduced. There are also many other examples of this as well.

              'Same opponent' do matter and isn't 'stupid'. If I knock 100 10 year old children out unconscious in the first round whilst you have a 70% KO percentage against top ranked opposition in your weight class and have more difficulties knocking your opponents out, is that evidence that I have more punching power? NO, it isn't! Why? Because they're different caliber of opposition. It's entirely possible that you could also knock my 100 10 year old opponents out the way I did and it's also entirely possible that I'd struggle just as much as you did to KO the opponents you fought. 'Same opponent' is in my opinion, the most important way to establish the knockout abilities of two or more boxers when comparing them. The second most important way in my opinion is to use similar caliber of opposition, which are boxers that are ranked as high or as low as each other. This means, two top 10 ranked boxers are similar caliber of opposition. Whereas, two 100 ranked boxers are similar caliber of opposition.

              We can't compare Deontay Wilder's knockouts over low ranked opposition to Anthony Joshua's knockouts over top ranked opposition. That's not a fair, objective comparison. It's a unlike comparison. We have to compare like for like. This means, we must compare Deontay Wilder's knockouts over low ranked opposition to Anthony Joshua's knockouts over low ranked opposition and Deontay Wilder's knockouts over top ranked opposition to Anthony Joshua's knockouts over top ranked opposition.

              Both Bermane Stiverne and Dillian Whyte are similar caliber of opposition. Both were in the top 10 when Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua fought them respectively. By this comparison, Anthony Joshua knocked Dillian Whyte out cleanly. A guy who has a solid chin, was unbeaten and previously never knocked out before. On the other hand, Deontay Wilder failed to KO Bermane Stiverne, a guy who was beaten already in the past and was stopped too. So according to this comparison, Anthony Joshua is a better knockout specialist and is a more powerful puncher.

              I'd discount Eric Molina because I do agree that when a boxer was already knocked out in the past, it's much easier for that same boxer to be knocked out in their follow up bouts. A boxer becomes more vulnerable to getting knocked out if they've already been knocked out before.

              Deontay Wilder may have knocked out extremely poor quality opposition more violently than Anthony Joshua did to much better quality opposition, but again, that isn't evidence of Wilder being a more powerful puncher as that's an unlike for unlike comparison.

              Comment


              • #87
                Anthony hits harder but is too slow.

                Comment

                Working...
                X
                TOP