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  • CubanGuyNYC
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    #51
    Originally posted by JaguaresMx
    I genuinely love Rigo. I think he's fascinating and an amazing skilled/powerful boxer...but...

    he's old now. He's going to get Gamboad and people will scream "exposed".

    the truth is he is on the downside of his career, plus inactive.

    Some bum is going to KO him. I know this to be true.

    Another Cuban we didn't quite get to enjoy.
    Read my mind, man. I've got visions of Gamboa all over again. I can see Rigo falling prey to some journeyman who couldn't carry his spit bucket just a few years ago. It's coming. Rigo turns 37 in September.

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    • NYG
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      #52
      17-0 close to 40. Embarassing

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      • sterilizer
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        #53
        Grow a pair and move up to face Lomachenko!

        To me, Lomachenko vs. Rigondeaux would define who is actually the REAL P4P guy, but of course this is highly subjective. Specially because Americans determine it and they prefer to choose an American if possible, even if undeservingly, for example Ward for this year.

        Those names mentioned as alternative Rigo opponents... sorry but they are a bunch of tomato cans compared to Rigondeaux's quality --and I write this while totally hating his guts, the likes of him, Lara, Mayweather Jr., typical all-defense "boxers" who never engage, are the type of boxers I wish were a dead species--.

        Nonetheless, Loma vs. Rigo would be the highest possible top-quality fight to be made. Quality-wise, GGG-Canelo, Ward-Kovalev, Fury-Joshua, IMHO none of those fights come EVEN CLOSE in quality as a super-fight between Loma and Rigo.

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          #54
          Originally posted by sterilizer
          To me, Lomachenko vs. Rigondeaux would define who is actually the REAL P4P guy, but of course this is highly subjective. Specially because Americans determine it and they prefer to choose an American if possible, even if undeservingly, for example Ward for this year.

          Those names mentioned as alternative Rigo opponents... sorry but they are a bunch of tomato cans compared to Rigondeaux's quality --and I write this while totally hating his guts, the likes of him, Lara, Mayweather Jr., typical all-defense "boxers" who never engage, are the type of boxers I wish were a dead species--.

          Nonetheless, Loma vs. Rigo would be the highest possible top-quality fight to be made. Quality-wise, GGG-Canelo, Ward-Kovalev, Fury-Joshua, IMHO none of those fights come EVEN CLOSE in quality as a super-fight between Loma and Rigo.
          Rigo hasnt fought in years, he isnt p4p anywhere

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            #55
            Originally posted by sterilizer
            To me, Lomachenko vs. Rigondeaux would define who is actually the REAL P4P guy, but of course this is highly subjective. Specially because Americans determine it and they prefer to choose an American if possible, even if undeservingly, for example Ward for this year.

            Those names mentioned as alternative Rigo opponents... sorry but they are a bunch of tomato cans compared to Rigondeaux's quality --and I write this while totally hating his guts, the likes of him, Lara, Mayweather Jr., typical all-defense "boxers" who never engage, are the type of boxers I wish were a dead species--.

            Nonetheless, Loma vs. Rigo would be the highest possible top-quality fight to be made. Quality-wise, GGG-Canelo, Ward-Kovalev, Fury-Joshua, IMHO none of those fights come EVEN CLOSE in quality as a super-fight between Loma and Rigo.
            You want actual boxers to be a dead species? What do you want, rock em sock em robots in the ring? Nobody cares about Rigondeaux and Lomachenko isnt very popular either. I doubt they can sell out the barclays

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            • sterilizer
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              #56
              Originally posted by NYG
              You want actual boxers to be a dead species? What do you want, rock em sock em robots in the ring? Nobody cares about Rigondeaux and Lomachenko isnt very popular either. I doubt they can sell out the barclays
              To me it's not about selling out a venue. It is about a quality fight. IMO that fight is the highest-quality possible fight today.

              Just as Manny-Mayweather was in its moment.

              The casual fans like to watch big guys fight. These two are small guys and none of them is American, therefore they will probably never draw big crowds.

              Manny became a PPV star because he went from a tiny junior flyweight, to fighting full-blown welterweights such as Margarito. If Lomachenko can do something similar, I am sure he will become a PPV sensation as well.

              I want BALANCED fighters, the ones who can both defend and attack, not only being elusive and pot-shotting for points, to win decision-based boring fights, such as in all the later fights of Mayweather Jr., and most of Rigondeaux and Lara's as well.

              Sugar Ray Leonard could both defend and attack and he did so. You never knew what he was gonna do. He was the attacker and brawler vs. Hearns, not the boxer. He was a brawler in the 1st fight vs. Duran and then the opposite. Muhammad Ali was a master at defense and he also engaged, he didn't just pot-shot to win decisions. HE TRADED. He was fan-friendly. Ho KO'd lots of people. Even Rocky Marciano was great at defense, he is underrated at that, and of course he was excellent at attacking. Mike Tyson and JCC Senior were incredible at defense when they were in their prime, and they were brawlers at the same time. Oscar de la Hoya was an excellent defensive-offensive boxer. He never ever won any fight by being a boring pot-shotter.

              I hope I made it clear now.
              Last edited by sterilizer; 05-13-2017, 07:32 PM.

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                #57
                Originally posted by sterilizer
                To me it's not about selling out a venue. It is about a quality fight. IMO that fight is the highest-quality possible fight today.

                Just as Manny-Mayweather was in its moment.

                The casual fans like to watch big guys fight. These two are small guys and none of them is American, therefore they will probably never draw big crowds.

                Manny became a PPV star because he went from a tiny junior flyweight, to fighting full-blown welterweights such as Margarito. If Lomachenko can do something similar, I am sure he will become a PPV sensation as well.

                I want BALANCED fighters, the ones who can both defend and attack, not only being elusive and pot-shotting for points, to win decision-based boring fights, such as in all the later fights of Mayweather Jr., and most of Rigondeaux and Lara's as well.

                Sugar Ray Leonard could both defend and attack and he did so. You never knew what he was gonna do. He was the attacker and brawler vs. Hearns, not the boxer. He was a brawler in the 1st fight vs. Duran and then the opposite. Muhammad Ali was a master at defense and he also engaged, he didn't just pot-shot to win decisions. HE TRADED. He was fan-friendly. Ho KO'd lots of people. Even Rocky Marciano was great at defense, he is underrated at that, and of course he was excellent at attacking. Mike tyson and LCC Senior were incredible at defense when they were in their prime, and they were brawlers at the same time. Oscar de la Hoya was an excellent defensive-offensive boxer. He never ever won any fight by being a boring pot-shotter.

                I hope I made it clear now.

                So that
                Makes sense. I put Thurman in that category too, he can defend but he can also **** when needed.

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                • !! Shawn
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by JaguaresMx
                  I genuinely love Rigo. I think he's fascinating and an amazing skilled/powerful boxer...but...

                  he's old now. He's going to get Gamboad and people will scream "exposed".

                  the truth is he is on the downside of his career, plus inactive.

                  Some bum is going to KO him. I know this to be true.

                  Another Cuban we didn't quite get to enjoy.
                  You are unfortunately probably right. At his weight, at 36 he is a dinosaur.

                  Maybe he has some old man hopkins in him, but that is yet to be seen.

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                  • BillyBoxing
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by lazaron72
                    Loma has been exposed already , got beaten by salido , and rigo has not .
                    Rigo wanted to fight him at 124 and Loma didn't . If this fight happened, rigondeaux would take Loma to school , although salido already beat this kid , whom you think is that good ......,

                    Hit and not be hit , can not hit what you don't see .
                    It's being really hypocrit to bring that Salido loss.

                    There is no problem in losing your second pro fight, a 12 rounders against a world champ.

                    Especially when the guy barely beat you and cheated his way to close decision (low blows and missing weight).

                    Any person with a brain won't blame Loma's record for that.

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                    • GMAN SUPREME
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                      #60
                      lol rigo's downfall has been his own damn fault. there's no reason why anybody should feel bad for him.

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