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  • DLT
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    Fans Overrate Power?

    Why do so many people on this forum and fans in general say the same thing. I made this thread because of what people said in the Spinks vs Karmazin thread.

    This is boxing guys. Not fighting. If you master the art of boxing then power doesnt mean anything. Its not like Spinks is coming in to Knock you out. He comes in to score points.

    You dont need power with Spinks style. Its ****** for people to keep saying things like that. Have you ever even watched a true boxer before?

    Sweet Pea didnt even have no power. Mayorga is full of power and Spinks made him look dumb.

    The bottom line is that with Spinks style he wont get hit that much and he can score alot with his ring generalship and by being a quick, slick, southpaw.

    Power Means Nothing in boxing unless you are not a slick boxer. Fighters need power but if you are a slick boxer then you dont need any.

    Its like the old saying. I forgot who said it but someone asked a short basketball player one day, "How do you think you can compete with these guys at your size", and the guy responded "Ive always been this size".

    Its the same about boxers and its also the reason why I think Paulie can beat Cotto. People say that Paulie is feather fisted and Cotto will walk right through him but you know what? Paulie, Spinks, and many other boxers have always been feather fisted. Theyve been that way since they started at a young age. Therefore they have learned the art to fight without power and neaturalize there opponent.

    If these guys were born with Tito type power then they wouldve fought a different way but instead they had to learn the art of hitting without getting hit.

    You think they never train with people that hit like trucks? Theyve been doing that forever and therfore Karmazin or Cotto wont be anything special to them as far as power goes.

    Now with that being said, both Karmazin and Cotto could easily win but it wont have nothing to do with the fact that these guys are light punchers because they have been that way there whole lives and they know how to fight that way and neaturalize guys with big power.

    Shoot, I remember guys on here use to say that about Floyd vs Tszyu. "How can Floyd deal with Tszyu's power", and "Floyd cant hurt Tszyu"? Its so ****** for guys to say things like that because they obviously dont know boxing.

    Unless you go "way" up in weight then power doesnt mean anything if your a slick boxer who is use to not having power and there opponents having alot
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    #2
    Very valid point. If one needs a specific example of the power of skill vs the power of power...look at Calzaghe-Lacy. That was art what Calzaghe did...brutal art; but art none the less.

    It's all about skill.

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    • Chups
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      #3
      Well if you're just about boxing skills with no power I doubt that you're gonna have success fans/money wise. Sure fighters like that wins matches but he won't be winning in the pocketbooks.

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      • IwatchBoxing
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        #4
        They are overrating power like crazy these days. Sometimes I think this is the UFC or Wrestling. Much was said about Castillos power, as if he was gonna knock Casamayors block off, than he came in and outboxed the crap outta him.

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        • cobracore
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          #5
          Yes, i 100% agree with this post.

          Which is also why i think Manfredo and Mora from Contender are underrated, because their both featherfisted. Mora moreso than manfredo.

          I mean, a punch is a punch. Other than knockout power, it doesn't matter if its average power or light - it still hurts and snaps your head back and all that. Nobody can 'walk through punches'.

          Except Chuvalo maybe.

          But yea, i think that, there are two types of punchers. People who can KTFO you, and people who can't. The people who can't can cumulate damage on you to KO you. People in this category are the Mayweathers, Malignaggis, Toneys of the boxing world. Some may have more KOS than others, sure, because there is a power difference, but in terms of Victory of Defeat, it doesn't matter, because everybody's punches hurt.

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          • Born to Win
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            #6
            There are different types of boxers and various kinds of boxing fans.


            Some George Foreman fans might tell you that it is all about raw power and not skill.

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              Mitakuye Oyasin
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              #7
              Originally posted by Born to Win
              There are different types of boxers and various kinds of boxing fans.


              Some George Foreman fans might tell you that it is all about raw power and not skill.
              Maybe; but I'll bet George wouldn't say that.

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              • Run
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                #8
                Originally posted by DLT
                Power Means Nothing in boxing unless you are not a slick boxer. Fighters need power but if you are a slick boxer then you dont need any.
                That's ridiculous.

                Paul Malignaggi is slick and has no power. Are you telling me he's not going to need any power if he want's to beat Cotto?



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                • Rockin'
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by RunWithKnives
                  That's ridiculous.

                  Paul Malignaggi is slick and has no power. Are you telling me he's not going to need any power if he want's to beat Cotto?
                  He'll wish that he had some while hes getting his ass handed to him!!

                  Rockin'

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                  • BrooklynBomber
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by RunWithKnives
                    That's ridiculous.

                    Paul Malignaggi is slick and has no power. Are you telling me he's not going to need any power if he want's to beat Cotto?
                    Let me put it this was in a fight between Foreman and PBF, PBF will own Foreman.




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