Comments Thread For: Felix Trinidad's Father: Golovkin is More Complete, Beats Canelo

[bluepete]

They are both pretty complete. Neither is a one-trick pony.

A lot of the people on this forum, a surprising number of which don't really watch boxing seem to depict him as a KO artist.

His jab stats are way more impressive than his fairly low number of true knockout punches.

He outjabbed Jacobs 105 to 31
Lemieux 170 to 35

You mean his low amount of power punches thrown. Because when he lands them in general, people get hurt or go down. He does have a truly great jab though, almost like a power punch in itself. I don't think Canelo would've done half as well in with Jacobs.

[Elroy The Great]

They are both pretty complete. Neither is a one-trick pony.

A lot of the people on this forum, a surprising number of which don't really watch boxing seem to depict him as a KO artist.

His jab stats are way more impressive than his fairly low number of true knockout punches.

He outjabbed Jacobs 105 to 31
Lemieux 170 to 35

and those jabs were serious weapons. i was highly impressed.

[aboutfkntime]

He led his son to three titles and the son is regarded as one of the best fighters, if not the best, from Puerto Rico.

Just because he wanted to train one guy for his whole career doesn't mean he's not successful. He was a former fighter so it's not like some guy without fighting experience like Jack Loew.

That's like a coach leading an NBA team to three titles and he's not considered great because he only coached that one team.

I agree. and Reynoso only trains one fighter

[The Time]

Dang I haven't heard from Don Felix Trinidad in awhile. Good to hear from him. Glad they reached out to him for an interview.

[rrayvez]

exactly. and he gets a thread about who he feels will win

he's trained 1 fighter from childhood who made it to being one of the best fighters of his era and first ballot hall of famer. Other than Virgil hunter with ward, name 1 trainer who has done a similar job. And what exactly have you done in boxing to discredit his opinion?

[Elroy The Great]

he's trained 1 fighter from childhood who made it to being one of the best fighters of his era and first ballot hall of famer. Other than Virgil hunter with ward, name 1 trainer who has done a similar job. And what exactly have you done in boxing to discredit his opinion?

the petronellis ?

if chavez jr was tito sr son, how much love would tito sr be getting ?!?!? who in the hell is hyping up paez sr ? daddy tito had NOTHING to do with tito jr becoming an ATG.

[rrayvez]

the petronellis ?

if chavez jr was tito sr son, how much love would tito sr be getting ?!?!? who in the hell is hyping up paez sr ? daddy tito had NOTHING to do with tito jr becoming an ATG.

Yeah, hagler was 13/14 when petronellis trained him. Point being, it's rare that a trainer can take someone from a young age all the way to the top of the sport. How does titos lifetime trainer have NOTHING to do with titos success? Yes natural talent was involved but unlike Chavez jr, tito was never known for being out of shape, having bad stamina, not coming into a fight prepared. The trainer has something to do with that. No?

[aboutfkntime]

not sure if I agree that Golovkin is more well-rounded than Canelo, I think the opposite

Golovkin's advantage is not based on his variety/repertoire, it is based on his strength(s)..... and rightly so, being so formidable

I think IF Canelo is to win, his gameplan will need to be based around the fact that he is more well-rounded than Golovkin, and not play to GGG's strengths

[Elroy The Great]

Yeah, hagler was 13/14 when petronellis trained him. Point being, it's rare that a trainer can take someone from a young age all the way to the top of the sport. How does titos lifetime trainer have NOTHING to do with titos success? Yes natural talent was involved but unlike Chavez jr, tito was never known for being out of shape, having bad stamina, not coming into a fight prepared. The trainer has something to do with that. No?

they were as much of a father hagler ever had. youre arguing semantics.

tito sr was lucky.

[rrayvez]

they were as much of a father hagler ever had. youre arguing semantics.

tito sr was lucky.

did they raise hagler from birth, did hagler have their DNA? I don't understand your point, how is tito Sr any more lucky than the petronellis who had hagler walk into their gym? Or any more lucky than Virgil hunter, or Canelos trainers? If anything he has more To do with titos success than any of those trainers had with their respective fighters. And as far as your original point implying that he shouldn't have an article on boxingscene about his thoughts on Canelo vs ggg, it's not like he made the lead story on sports center. It's a boxing website and he provided a rational opinion of the fight.