Did Floyd Beat Marquez Convincingly or Did We Need 4 fights To Be Sure?

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  • GhostofDempsey
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    #11
    Originally posted by larryxxx.
    floyd beat him on skills not size..how did weight matter when he simply got outboxed?
    Aren't you the guy who just criticized Manny for considering Mikey Garcia? Can't have it both ways Larry.

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    • Teetotaler
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      #12
      Lol didnt froid miss weight against marquez? He ah small weltawait doe

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        #13
        Originally posted by larryxxx.
        Manny was young and didnt have the best nutritional diet man..he was fighting off of balls and heart
        Manny started at age 15 like Barrera and Alvarez. You're saying Manny in his country didn't have meat, carbs, and water that maintain Flyweight standards?

        What do you think about this video where Conte says he has no doubt in his mind that Pacquiao was roiding in the phillipines. Did Bob make sure American industry didn't really monitor Pac between fights?

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          #14
          Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
          Aren't you the guy who just criticized Manny for considering Mikey Garcia? Can't have it both ways Larry.
          im asking how did size make jmm get outboxed......i didnt demand the jmm fight nor do i praise it..but manny seems to only be fighting fighters who are moving up and not other ww champions

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            #15
            Originally posted by larryxxx.
            floyd beat him on skills not size..how did weight matter when he simply got outboxed?
            Landed less. Threw less. Landed weaker punches... Floyd didn't win mate.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Teetotaler
              Lol didnt froid miss weight against marquez? He ah small weltawait doe
              This doesn't make any sense. Floyd was already a Lineal 147 champion and known Welterweight. The catch was at 144. Marquez is both older than Pac and Floyd. Marquez bottled at 142 against Floyd the same way he bottled at 142 against Pacquiao. Pacquiao bottled at 147...

              Marquez has proven he has no interest to bottleneck the 147 limit, so what would it matter if he fought Pacquiao at a 147 limit vs fighting Floyd at the initial 144? In fact Floyd weighed 146 whereas Pac weighed 147 against Marquez.

              Toradol may work with Cotto, Mosley, and Margarito under the radar, but it ain't gonna help when you sprint into a massive overhand right. Can'T be doing Toradol like that. Arum should be ashamed for pretending to not know

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                #17
                Originally posted by larryxxx.
                im asking how did size make jmm get outboxed......i didnt demand the jmm fight nor do i praise it..but manny seems to only be fighting fighters who are moving up and not other ww champions
                JMM came up from 135, and then went back to 135 after the Mayweather fight. He was not a WW. Floyd didn't make weight for their fight AND refused to be weighed on the day of the fight. His size certainly did matter.

                Manny has fought a lot of opponents bigger than him. Vargas was a WW champion, Bradley a full blown WW, Rios and Algieri are naturally bigger than Pac.

                But don't worry, if Floyd gets his way he will have his McGregor fight (while demanding Conor come down from 170 to 147).

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                  JMM came up from 135, and then went back to 135 after the Mayweather fight. He was not a WW. Floyd didn't make weight for their fight AND refused to be weighed on the day of the fight. His size certainly did matter.

                  Manny has fought a lot of opponents bigger than him. Vargas was a WW champion, Bradley a full blown WW, Rios and Algieri are naturally bigger than Pac.

                  But don't worry, if Floyd gets his way he will have his McGregor fight (while demanding Conor come down from 170 to 147).
                  Marquez acknowledging his #2 p4p status publicized that if he beat Floyd at Welterweight he would be #1 since he felt he was robbed in their (Pac) series. Did Marquez ever complain about the loss? All Marquez ever did was acknowledge how great Floyd is defensively and that he would beat Pac.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                    JMM came up from 135, and then went back to 135 after the Mayweather fight. He was not a WW. Floyd didn't make weight for their fight AND refused to be weighed on the day of the fight. His size certainly did matter.

                    Manny has fought a lot of opponents bigger than him. Vargas was a WW champion, Bradley a full blown WW, Rios and Algieri are naturally bigger than Pac.

                    But don't worry, if Floyd gets his way he will have his McGregor fight (while demanding Conor come down from 170 to 147).
                    So Floyd used his body weight to lay on Marquez and wear him down. Did he impose his size by being the aggressor or did he simply outbox him?

                    What size advantage did he have over Canelo? I'll give you a chance to switch excuses and tell me Canelo was too young and experience. While you're at it tell me Pacquiao was too old and passed his prime.

                    Excuses, excuses...

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop
                      Marquez acknowledging his #2 p4p status publicized that if he beat Floyd at Welterweight he would be #1 since he felt he was robbed in their (Pac) series. Did Marquez ever complain about the loss? All Marquez ever did was acknowledge how great Floyd is defensively and that he would beat Pac.
                      JMM and Manny fought close fights, and any time JMM is in a close fight he cries robbery. Did the same with Bradley too.

                      Not sure about you, but most fans would rather re-watch any of the JMM/Manny fights, don't know of anyone who would sit through Floyd/Marquez again. Yawn!

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