Comments Thread For: Canelo's Trainer: No Doubt Saul Can KO 'No Defense' Golovkin!

[Bigg Rigg]

Idk but he couldn't even KO bum ass Chavez Jr. How am I suppose to believe he's gonna KO Golovkin?? If he wins, it'll be on points.

[Shape up]

nope, one report said that, and I think you exaggerated it

all other reports say there was nothing in it

Canelo was a green kid back then, and sparring is just sparring..... he is much more developed as a fighter now

ggg is not a 12-round fighter, and he is getting old..... Canelo will gonna soften him up with that bodywork and drag him deep

Show me those other reports, unbiased ones that tell your story

[aboutfkntime]

Show me those other reports, unbiased ones that tell your story

Kovalev: Golovkin-Canelo is 50-50, Canelo Held His Own With GGG.....
"..... I can remember watching Golovkin and Alvarez sparring. I worked there for a year and half in that gym, where Gennady had been staying as well. We trained together. So I've seen the sparring between Golovkin and Alvarez. They were both very competitive. Neither one was inferior to the other....."
http://www.boxingscene.com/kovalev-g...th-ggg--111739




now, you show me your..... " unbiased " report

keyword (according to you) = " unbiased "

waiting.....




oh, and..... you do realise that sparring session was YEARS ago, right..... and that version of Canelo was most likely the welter (150lb) version, right?

Canelo is NOT the same fighter dude, not in ANY respect..... he is bigger/stronger, more experienced, and more developed as a fighter..... Golovkin is none of those things, some are even saying that he has faded

[Bad_Guy]

Kovalev sure is an unbiased source. He had to talk about being dropped by GGG in sparring earlier that year.

[Shape up]

A boxing insider who was present at the Big Bear (CA) gym on the day when Gennady Golovkin and Canelo Alvarez sparred has shared his account of what happened: “Golovkin hurt Canelo twice – first liver and then head. Canelo came out strong trying to hurt him right away. Then Golovkin got him with a nice liver shot and then a few head shots that made Canelo spar a lot more gently. It was awkward in the room. It was Golovkin’s first real sparring in America. He was just here from Germany. I think Canelo (then age 21) was just getting ready for Afonso Gomez in Los Angeles (TKO 6 in September 2011).”

It calls to mind the Lennox Lewis vs Andrew Golota sparring session years before Lewis defended the WBC Heavyweight title by first round knockout against Golota in Atlantic City in 1997. Before their fight Lewis didn’t publicly talk about his previous sparring against Golota with the media but I learned from an insider Lennox had his way with Golota in sparring and that when he “turned up the heat Golota couldn’t handle it.” Of course the same pattern transferred to their actual fight which was a one-sided affair. Sparring can reveal nothing – depending on the physical conditions of each boxer or their motivations on that particular day – or it can reveal a lot. By the way Canelo and his team are so very carefully handling this situation of accepting a fight against Golovkin it seems that this infamous Golovkin sparring session with Canelo has had a profound effect on Canelo. Canelo has a memorable first hand experience on just how challenging and difficult it is to compete with Golovkin inside the boxing ring. — By Scoop Malinowski

"Here’s what I recall from the six-round session I witnessed in Big Bear, Calif. (which I wrote about in a Gym Notes column): Alvarez was preparing for his first title defense against Ryan Rhodes and Golovkin, who I’d never seen in person, was getting ready for Kassim Ouma. Golovkin’s trainer, Abel Sanchez, wanted his middleweight to get some work with Canelo in order to experience the faster hands of a naturally smaller fighter. Golovkin was not supposed to give Canelo the “full treatment,” and it was clear from the sparring I saw that he was indeed holding back.

Still, Golovkin “holding back” was a lot for Canelo, only 20 at the time, to deal with. And the young man did well. I’d say he held his own, even though he couldn’t hurt Golvokin with his best shots. What Alvarez showed me in those 4-minute rounds at 6,000-plus-feet altitude was that the Mexican star was willing to put in very hard work in order to learn his craft and to get in proper condition for his fights.

I was not impressed by what I saw of Alvarez during his WBC 154-pound title winning effort against Matthew Hatton three month earlier. He seemed one-dimensional in his approach and his power appeared overrated. I wasn’t even sure if he would get past Rhodes, who was an experienced junior middleweight contender with solid skills. But watching Alvarez work his jab and exhibit good footwork while moving about the ring during his sparring session with Golovkin let me know that the kid was more versatile than most of us had seen in his fights up to that point of his career.

Golovkin hurt Alvarez a few times – a hook at the end of the second round visibly stunned him and some body shots made him wince – but the young man kept his head and found ways to compete even when he was clearly tired (a combination of the altitude and GGG’s pressure) in the last two rounds.

My guess is that Canelo carried a lot of confidence into his fight with Rhodes thanks to the excellent camp and those tough rounds of sparring with Golovkin. However, he shouldn’t think he’s got an edge over the likes of Mayweather just because he’s sparred a few times with a middleweight crusher. Top junior middleweights, such as Mayweather and Austin Trout will present defensive and finesse moves that will challenge the Mexican star in ways Golovkin’s stalk-and-pound style did not.

Still, having said that, I believe that Canelo is a legitimate 154-pound contender (which I know is not a very popular opinion among hardcore boxing fan circles). " “Golovkin was not supposed to give Canelo the ‘full treatment,’ and it was clear from the sparring I saw that he was indeed holding back. Still, Golovkin ‘holding back’ was a lot for Canelo, only 20 at the time, to deal with. And the young man did well. I’d say he held his own, even though he couldn’t hurt Golvokin with his best shots.

“Golovkin hurt Alvarez a few times — a hook at the end of the second round visibly stunned him and some body shots made him wince — but the young man kept his head and found ways to compete even when he was clearly tired (a combination of the altitude and GGG’s pressure) in the last two rounds.”

Of course, sparring is sparring. Alvarez is 26 now and is 47-1-1 with 33 KOs. Golovkin is dominant at 34 years old and is 36-0 with 33 KOs.
- See more at: http://www.boxingscene.com/kovalev-s....hCkTDSXF.dpuf

[aboutfkntime]

A boxing insider who was present at the Big Bear (CA) gym on the day when Gennady Golovkin and Canelo Alvarez sparred has shared his account of what happened: “Golovkin hurt Canelo twice – first liver and then head. Canelo came out strong trying to hurt him right away. Then Golovkin got him with a nice liver shot and then a few head shots that made Canelo spar a lot more gently. It was awkward in the room. It was Golovkin’s first real sparring in America. He was just here from Germany. I think Canelo (then age 21) was just getting ready for Afonso Gomez in Los Angeles (TKO 6 in September 2011).”

It calls to mind the Lennox Lewis vs Andrew Golota sparring session years before Lewis defended the WBC Heavyweight title by first round knockout against Golota in Atlantic City in 1997. Before their fight Lewis didn’t publicly talk about his previous sparring against Golota with the media but I learned from an insider Lennox had his way with Golota in sparring and that when he “turned up the heat Golota couldn’t handle it.” Of course the same pattern transferred to their actual fight which was a one-sided affair. Sparring can reveal nothing – depending on the physical conditions of each boxer or their motivations on that particular day – or it can reveal a lot. By the way Canelo and his team are so very carefully handling this situation of accepting a fight against Golovkin it seems that this infamous Golovkin sparring session with Canelo has had a profound effect on Canelo. Canelo has a memorable first hand experience on just how challenging and difficult it is to compete with Golovkin inside the boxing ring. — By Scoop Malinowski

"Here’s what I recall from the six-round session I witnessed in Big Bear, Calif. (which I wrote about in a Gym Notes column): Alvarez was preparing for his first title defense against Ryan Rhodes and Golovkin, who I’d never seen in person, was getting ready for Kassim Ouma. Golovkin’s trainer, Abel Sanchez, wanted his middleweight to get some work with Canelo in order to experience the faster hands of a naturally smaller fighter. Golovkin was not supposed to give Canelo the “full treatment,” and it was clear from the sparring I saw that he was indeed holding back.

Still, Golovkin “holding back” was a lot for Canelo, only 20 at the time, to deal with. And the young man did well. I’d say he held his own, even though he couldn’t hurt Golvokin with his best shots. What Alvarez showed me in those 4-minute rounds at 6,000-plus-feet altitude was that the Mexican star was willing to put in very hard work in order to learn his craft and to get in proper condition for his fights.

I was not impressed by what I saw of Alvarez during his WBC 154-pound title winning effort against Matthew Hatton three month earlier. He seemed one-dimensional in his approach and his power appeared overrated. I wasn’t even sure if he would get past Rhodes, who was an experienced junior middleweight contender with solid skills. But watching Alvarez work his jab and exhibit good footwork while moving about the ring during his sparring session with Golovkin let me know that the kid was more versatile than most of us had seen in his fights up to that point of his career.

Golovkin hurt Alvarez a few times – a hook at the end of the second round visibly stunned him and some body shots made him wince – but the young man kept his head and found ways to compete even when he was clearly tired (a combination of the altitude and GGG’s pressure) in the last two rounds.

My guess is that Canelo carried a lot of confidence into his fight with Rhodes thanks to the excellent camp and those tough rounds of sparring with Golovkin. However, he shouldn’t think he’s got an edge over the likes of Mayweather just because he’s sparred a few times with a middleweight crusher. Top junior middleweights, such as Mayweather and Austin Trout will present defensive and finesse moves that will challenge the Mexican star in ways Golovkin’s stalk-and-pound style did not.

Still, having said that, I believe that Canelo is a legitimate 154-pound contender (which I know is not a very popular opinion among hardcore boxing fan circles). " “Golovkin was not supposed to give Canelo the ‘full treatment,’ and it was clear from the sparring I saw that he was indeed holding back. Still, Golovkin ‘holding back’ was a lot for Canelo, only 20 at the time, to deal with. And the young man did well. I’d say he held his own, even though he couldn’t hurt Golvokin with his best shots.

“Golovkin hurt Alvarez a few times — a hook at the end of the second round visibly stunned him and some body shots made him wince — but the young man kept his head and found ways to compete even when he was clearly tired (a combination of the altitude and GGG’s pressure) in the last two rounds.”

Of course, sparring is sparring. Alvarez is 26 now and is 47-1-1 with 33 KOs. Golovkin is dominant at 34 years old and is 36-0 with 33 KOs.
- See more at: http://www.boxingscene.com/kovalev-s....hCkTDSXF.dpuf

who is your " unbiased " (keyword) source ?

mine is Kovalev, who is yours ?

if your source is more credible, then mention him

but..... if it is easier for you to admit that this is a moot point, and will have no bearing whatsoever on the outcome of that fight..... then no problem, I agree

[ThomasJK]

What???????

when he is pressured relentlessly, Canelo will have LOTS of opportunities..... you will not see that "killer" pressure against Canelo, just like you rarely saw it against Jacobs

#levels

Canelo is a 12-round fighter, not sure about Golovkin ?

that body-work is gonna slow the G-man down, and those sharp counters and defensive combinations are going to make him hesitant

Golovkin will have trouble committing against a sharpshooter like Canelo, you will see

"Just like you rarely saw it against Jacobs". Are you kidding me? GGG was nothing but pressure on poor DJ's. For the whole fight.
GGG is going to jab Canelo relentlessly until he sees his opportunity to go to the right side of Canelos torso, it'll be a long night for the Mexican, or a short night if GGG catches that untested chin.

[Graz]

How many times does GGG have to repeat the fight with Brook was a street fight style. and people always talk about Jacobs exposing him but how would Canelo fair against the 6' 190 Jacobs? They'd never put him in there with him to find out!

If you want to see GGG skills on display than look no further than the GGG vs Lemieux fight because more than likely that's the style you will see him fight vs Canelo rather than how he fought against Brook or Jacobs

Absolutely correct! Good post.

[Golden Boi 360]

GGG fans claiming Jacobs was 190 on fight night?

Holy ****, lol.

[aboutfkntime]

"Just like you rarely saw it against Jacobs". Are you kidding me? GGG was nothing but pressure on poor DJ's. For the whole fight.
GGG is going to jab Canelo relentlessly until he sees his opportunity to go to the right side of Canelos torso, it'll be a long night for the Mexican, or a short night if GGG catches that untested chin.

he was hesitant, and non-committal at times..... which enabled Jacobs to outbox him in spots