Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Weight for Canelo-GGG is 160; No Rehydration Clause

[kushking]

That means the pump will be somewhere between 180 and 185 and anyone noticed how bloated he looked during the fight
...even with the fast hands he had to be somewhere pushing 185...

So your saying faitelson who works 4 espn,televisa, Univision etc etc is lying? I posted the vid,its in spanish,& theres many more where he says canelo weighed 174 & that was 2 lbs more than what he weighed vs trout who came in @172 too. It sounds like he came in @ his normal weight,he just didn't need to lose as much,he gets zero benefit from going higher,hell just get waay slower,his speed is his best asset,a 5'9" guy doesn't need to go higher just because hes @ higher weight. It just means he can compress extra muscle he wont need to lose to make weight,thats why gigi whos almost 5'11" is only 176 on fight night max,he cant lose speed.

[_Maxi]

I just posted a video(in spanish) like many others where faitelson confirmed canelo weighed 174,only mexican media got fight night weight,& dont say faitelson is lying,he hates on canelo 24/7 ,learn to read before saying im full of it.

Someone from GBP could've told him 174. Doesn't make it truth.

Mayweather said he was 149... but he was severely dehydrated at the weigh in lmao. I don't believe their numbers.

[kushking]

Someone from GBP could've told him 174. Doesn't make it truth.

Mayweather said he was 149... but he was severely dehydrated at the weigh in lmao. I don't believe their numbers.

No he had the weights of both chavez jr was only 180 & canelo 174. It is of zero advantage to gain more weight just because you fight higher. Mayweather weighed 165 vs canelo,canelo weighed 169,almost same difference in weight this fight. Its been confirmed by several mex news. They all hate on canelo so wtf lie? They said thats their scale so must be exclusive deal as part of the deal that allows free air of fight, in mexico.
Fanbois who've never boxed in their lives exagerate like saying jacobs is a cruiser vs gigi,& gigis a lil mw.

[Verus]

[QUOTE=kushking;17658548]Im done trying to school idiots but heres the link anyways,ive told your dumbazz before show me 1 shred of even 1 credible journalist saying for sure canelo rehydrated higher than 174,but of course your the idiot that claims jacobs gained 35 lbs overnight. Chavez jr came in at 180 & hes waaay bigger than 5'11" jacobs who makes 160 easily.
Around 3:20 in,& faitelson has said it on several shows already,theyre the only ones who got the fighters weight due to being mexican media.

"Canelo 174 chavez jr 180.

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But go ahead & claim faitelson who has always hated on canelo & ramon this co..ksmoker who said he hopes/knows jr rips his head off,& is in the same segment complaining jr was drained,go ahead & claim their lying,b b BECAUSE everythings a conspiracy against triple gift.

Fight night Canelo weighed 174.5 and Chavez Jr. 180 if these guys have accurate information.

[Superbee]

GGG coming in at his casual MW fight weight and Canelo looking like a midget ButterBean ? ....

[kushking]

Weight is one of the most misunderstood aspects of boxing. Just because you outweigh someone it doesn't matter. It is all about timing,if your heavier your slower,theres few exceptions at this level,if you weigh more with solid muscle than your opponent with smaller solid muscle your usually automatically slower, more plodding if your much taller. Physics are irrefutable in this case. So if your taller many times you dont want to be as heavy to not be too slow for an already elusive opponent. Speed & timing will beat strength & weight(within reason) most of the time because its all about percentage & numbers. If power shots count as 70 pct of importance(just guessing) & damage dealt. & jabs are 30% then even if your weaker ,if you hit your opponent 5 times with weaker power shots & your opponent hits you with 2 heavier power shots you will still have dealt more damage,thats why weight is overrated. As long as a fighters not drained theres no reason to gain more weight,weight will not make you more rugged if your not tall enough,thats a misconception I hear all the time. Ask anyone who trains they'll tell you.

[icha]

Someone from GBP could've told him 174. Doesn't make it truth.

Mayweather said he was 149... but he was severely dehydrated at the weigh in lmao. I don't believe their numbers.

After the weigh in canelo him self told espn that the plan was to go up 10 lbs, so that number seems accurate, heredia said he wanted chavez between 180 and 185...
Faitelson was really close to both camps and he really doesnt give canelo credit for anything he does, if he was going to lie about weights he will be saying canelo was heavier on fight night... he had no reason to say 174 .... but if you have different info or sources feel free to post it...

[Joe Beamish]

Weight is one of the most misunderstood aspects of boxing. Just because you outweigh someone it doesn't matter. It is all about timing,if your heavier your slower,theres few exceptions at this level,if you weigh more with solid muscle than your opponent with smaller solid muscle your usually automatically slower, more plodding if your much taller. Physics are irrefutable in this case. So if your taller many times you dont want to be as heavy to not be too slow for an already elusive opponent. Speed & timing will beat strength & weight(within reason) most of the time because its all about percentage & numbers. If power shots count as 70 pct of importance(just guessing) & damage dealt. & jabs are 30% then even if your weaker ,if you hit your opponent 5 times with weaker power shots & your opponent hits you with 2 heavier power shots you will still have dealt more damage,thats why weight is overrated. As long as a fighters not drained theres no reason to gain more weight,weight will not make you more rugged if your not tall enough,thats a misconception I hear all the time. Ask anyone who trains they'll tell you.

Uh yeah. That's why all the best heavyweights for years have been six-and-a-half foot giants weighing around 245 lbs.

It's also why Danny Jacobs was a no-show at the IBF weigh-in: gain every advantage from added weight against a superior opponent.

Oh, and it's why boxing has weight divisions.

Because, like, how much you weigh doesn't matter.

[kushking]

All nelo needs to do is counter time gigi to death,since gigi is more plodding & a lil slower, canelo will draw him in & alternate between countering him with combos & keeping him off balance with random potshots. Mark my words gs tailormade for canelo & will get beaten on points. Gigi relies on guys not having good counters,thats why brook did so well,jacobs,monroe had success buts featherfisted. Counter combo machines like nelo are gis worst nightmare,thats why hes avoided that type of fighter unless their weak punchers like Murry,& lemeiux doesnt know blocking or defense even existed.

[kushking]

Uh yeah. That's why all the best heavyweights for years have been six-and-a-half foot giants weighing around 245 lbs.

It's also why Danny Jacobs was a no-show at the IBF weigh-in: gain every advantage from added weight against a superior opponent.

Oh, and it's why boxing has weight divisions.

Because, like, how much you weigh doesn't matter.

Did you not see where I said within reason,reading comprehension isnt your strong suite,huh.
You also didnt notice I said "if your not tall enough"
& Jacobs missing weigh in was because he dehydrates a lot,hence its an advantage to rehydrate more as hes taller & its an advantage to have extra time to get acclimated again to extra sudden weight gain. you missed the point entirely anyways,my point was that if your natural walk around weight is 174 & you fight @155 & rehydrate to 174, then jump to mw 160 your not gaining an advantage from suddenly rehydrating to 178 just because your fighting @ full mw & bigger opponents. Your ideal rehydrate weight shouldnt exceed walk around weight,but there might be certain instances where you rehydrate extra if your still going to be faster than your opponent.