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Originally posted by 1hourRun View PostThe RING magazine title or WBA are the most worthy if the WBC is not an option. IBO, IBF, are for minor leagues...and realy the WBO has barely any lineage to respect.
The IBO is for minor leagues and I agree the WBO has barely any lineage to respect, but lumping the IBF in with the IBO is inappropriate.
The IBF has been treated as an equal to the WBC & WBA since the early 80s.
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Originally posted by Eff Pandas View PostGood. F#ck belts. #1 vs #2 makes the champion not some tacky looking belt.
the belts are the reason almost every fight you see is taking place. either because it's for a belt or because the fight is designed to move someone up the rankings to get a shot at a belt.
you can say #1 vs #2 all you want, but #1 and #2 is completely subjective and many may completely disagree about who is #1 or who is #2.
but who is the WBC or IBF champion is a fact. not an opinion. and the sport, everyone, the fighters, the networks, the promoters, etc choose the belts as a way to keep track of who is the best.
if you don't like it, watch a different sport.
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Originally posted by original zero View PostRing magazine is owned by Oscar De La Hoya. It's his personal championship and he makes up the rules as he goes along to benefit HBO fighters and screw Showtime fighters. The Ring title is absolutely worthless. It's not independent. It's a company propaganda tool.
The IBO is for minor leagues and I agree the WBO has barely any lineage to respect, but lumping the IBF in with the IBO is inappropriate.
The IBF has been treated as an equal to the WBC & WBA since the early 80s.
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Originally posted by 1hourRun View PostYes I would agree the RING is losing any merit - Im speaking from a historical point of view ; in addition the Ring typically runs current with the true lineal champion even till this day.
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Originally posted by original zero View Postring may sometimes coincide with lineal by coincidence, but the ring rules make it very clear they have absolutely no respect for the concept of a lineal championship and they cater to the whims of a coked out ****** who couldnt care less about lineal heritage.
I personally dont care what Dela Hoya does in his free time but the RING change in policy is making me sick like striping Adonis Stevenson despite the fact hes the true lineal champion and then these clowns had the opportunity according to the amended rules to sanction Ward vs. Kovalev for its title at 175 but they chocked -- I imagine it was the fear of the backlash from the hardcore seeing right through their bogus criteria.
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Originally posted by 1hourRun View PostI forgot to mention the IBF is typically carried by the weakest champion in each division
Yes there are some decent WBO champions, thanks to Top Rank essentially being exclusive to the WBO, but the idea that the IBF champion is typically the weakest is simply not true. The IBF title is far more prestigious than the WBO title.
and their strict mandatory policy is playing a significant role in my disdain for this sanctioning body ;
in addition its relatively a young organization with less historical basis to hold the same weight in terms of lineage.
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