Comments Thread For: Canelo: Mayweather-Pacquiao Really Hurt Boxing, Especially PPV
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More like, 95% of those watching assumed Floyd would adopt a style contrary to his normal style, rather than be properly disappointed at Manny failing to show up and lying after the fact.The fight wasn't a disaster and it didn't hurt boxing. Because 95% of the people that watched aren't boxing fans. And will never be boxing fans. A lot of stars had to align to make an event reach the magnitude of Floyd-Manny. And it probably never happen again.
The only travesty coming outta that fight is supposed fight fans acting like butt hurt teenage girls, b1tching and moaning because their guy didn't win.
Manny Pacquiao is the sole reason for why people were upset at the fight. We got exactly what we expected from TBE: nullifying his opponent over 12.
If you watched Mayweather/Canelo, you knew how Mayweather/Pacquiao was going down.Comment
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Exactly! It's really not hard to understand lol all this pointless analysis, when the answer is clear.
If people actually go check the history of PPV a guy like Canelo will never get 1 million buys without a legit dance partner.
There have only ever been four true 1 million buy PPV stars in the history of the sport; Tyson, Oscar, Floyd, and Manny(although less consistent than the other three).
The rest of the PPV buy history is full of 300k fights or lower, with only a half dozen or so exceptions; where the fight was a big deal competitively.
This reminds me of the Tiger Woods problem in golf. He had so much success that people think a golfer is only successful if he wins a major.
Floyd moved the bar so far financially in boxing that people now have unrealistic expectations about how PPV buys are supposed to work. Go check Oscar's numbers, Tyson's numbers, Manny's...Floyd just had a crazy run where all his fights cleared 900k buys for like 8 years straight. That's not realistic. Nobody ever did that.
Canelo's numbers actually aren't that bad in comparison to history, but people thinks he's supposed to do mayweather numbers. That's not realistic, unless he's in a competitive fight.
There are huge boxing stars that couldn't sell any PPVs. Just Google "Pay Per View" and look at the data on the wiki page. Learn something people.
Very well said.
Boxing fans got spoiled by the PPV numbers of May-Pac Era, but those numbers were historical anomalies.
Especially for non-HWs.Comment
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Exactly! It's really not hard to understand lol all this pointless analysis, when the answer is clear.
If people actually go check the history of PPV a guy like Canelo will never get 1 million buys without a legit dance partner.
There have only ever been four true 1 million buy PPV stars in the history of the sport; Tyson, Oscar, Floyd, and Manny(although less consistent than the other three).
The rest of the PPV buy history is full of 300k fights or lower, with only a half dozen or so exceptions; where the fight was a big deal competitively.
This reminds me of the Tiger Woods problem in golf. He had so much success that people think a golfer is only successful if he wins a major.
Floyd moved the bar so far financially in boxing that people now have unrealistic expectations about how PPV buys are supposed to work. Go check Oscar's numbers, Tyson's numbers, Manny's...Floyd just had a crazy run where all his fights cleared 900k buys for like 8 years straight. That's not realistic. Nobody ever did that.
Canelo's numbers actually aren't that bad in comparison to history, but people thinks he's supposed to do mayweather numbers. That's not realistic, unless he's in a competitive fight.
There are huge boxing stars that couldn't sell any PPVs. Just Google "Pay Per View" and look at the data on the wiki page. Learn something people.
Roy Jones never did 1 mill ppv buys.
It's not that easy.Comment
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!! Loma is really good but to say he is MILES better than floyd at this point in his career is just silly. if he did not face the same level of comp, how can he be miles better??????Comment
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Most good fights being on PPV is hurting PPV. Not Mayweather-Pacquiao.
Crawford-Postol for example was never gonna do good numbers regardless of May-Pac performances. GGG-Lemiuex, Ward-Kovalev, even Mayweather-Berto were never gonna do crazy numbers. Mayweather-Berto PPV would've been 500k PPVs no matter what. If it happened in 2011 in place of Berto-Ortiz, then we're talking different numbers.
Boxers, promoters, and journalists using Mayweather-Pacquiao PPV as a scapegoat but watch Mayweather-McGregor do like 2 million.Comment
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No doubt about it....
Killed boxing in America...
Dempsey-Tunney
Louis-schmelling
Ali-Frazier
Leonard-hagler
Compare that to Floyd-mannyComment
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