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  • Winky
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    Mike Tysons legacy.

    Where do you guys put him among the all-time greats.I think a prime and in shape Tyson is a top 3 heavyweight of all time.Just my opinion.Where do you put him?
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    #2
    Top 15 or 20 IMO based on his dominance earlier in his career.Without that he is lucky to crack the top 50 IMO.

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    • enadeus
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      #3
      I thought it over, someone put together a very well argued article in boxing history, I think he is top 20, but not top 5 or anything.

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        #4
        Originally posted by raesaad
        Top 15 or 20 IMO based on his dominance earlier in his career.Without that he is lucky to crack the top 50 IMO.
        Your an idiot.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Winky
          Your an idiot.
          OK.....wait and see the responses you get and holla at me later. I am a realist....you are a nuthugger.

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          • shortright
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            #6
            i also think tyson in his prime was top 3 alltime, he was a beast with rooney in his corner, don king ruined his carrer

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            • Winky
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              Originally posted by raesaad
              OK.....wait and see the responses you get and holla at me later. I am a realist....you are a nuthugger.
              Dude top 50....just think about how ****** that sounded.Id loooove to see your list of the top 50.And i forgot more about boxing then you'll ever know.

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              • enadeus
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                Originally posted by SABBATH
                In 1985 Tyson went 15-0 with 15 KO's. Only one novice opponent would retire with a winning record (6-1). Not one of these 15 opponents ever beat a world class opponent and they accounted for 154 KO losses. ****ing incredible! The glass jaw brigade! Of particular note is opponent Larry Sims who is stopped by wonderboy in 3 rounds. Two fights later it takes 42 year old Ernie Shavers who hasn't had a fight in 4 years only 1 round to KO Sims.

                1986 isn't much better and this is the year Tyson fans will tell you his prime started.

                David Jaco KO'd in 1 retires with a losing record and is KO'd 18 times.

                Mike Jameson KO'd in 5 retires with a losing record and is KO'd 4 times.

                Jesse Ferguson was probably one of Tyson's best opponents although his only notable wins were against Ray Mercer and Buster Douglas while he retired having been KO'd 6 times. Even still he finished the fight with Tyson on his feet and was only floored once in 6 rounds before the referee disqualified him for holding.

                Steve Zouski retires with a losing record and is KO'd 9 times. In his 2nd fight after getting KO'd by Tyson in 3, 267 lb George Foreman who hasn't fought in 10 years takes only one round more than Tyson scoring a KO in 4.

                James Tillis past his prime and now a decent journeyman loses a close decision to Tyson. Tillis never beat a top 10 heavyweight in his career and was KO'd 11 times.

                Mitch Green. Here's a switch. A Tyson opponent who doesn't have multiple KO losses on his record. Green who never defeated a ranked fighter and retired 19-6 goes the distance with Tyson and is never floored.

                Reggie Gross KO'd in 1. A confidence booster for Tyson who has failed to stop his last 2 opponents. Fought the first half of his career as a light-heavyweight and was KO'd 5 times in compiling an 18-8 career record.

                William Hosea KO'd in 1. Another winning record! Retires 11-7 and is KO'd twice.

                Lorenzo Boyd. KO'd in 2. Retires with a losing record. Incredibly Boyd suffers 41 KO's in 54 career losses!

                Marvis Frazier KO'd in 1. Soft puncher with a weak chin but holds a decision win over Bonecrusher Smith, the only top 10 opponent win on his resume. KO'd in 1 in both career losses.

                Jose Ribalta TKO'd in 10. On his feet, clear-eyed and complaining when the referee stops it. Retires with a winning record but still suffers 9 KO's in 17 losses and like most Tyson KO victims never beats a top 10 heavyweight.

                Alfonso Ratliff KO'd in 2. A cruiserweight. KO'd by every world class heavyweight he ever fought. Retires with a winning record but is KO'd 6 times in 9 career losses.

                That's 25 of Tyson's 44 Career KO's right there

                Oh yeah, one other thing. Tyson's 27 fight pre-title opposition?

                268 CAREER KO LOSSES !!!

                Those were the tomato cans your 21 year old wonder boy built his reputation on Tex. Put that in your 10 gallon hat cow poke...
                Here is part of the analysis.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Winky
                  Where do you guys put him among the all-time greats.I think a prime and in shape Tyson is a top 3 heavyweight of all time.Just my opinion.Where do you put him?
                  Did prime Winky Wright have the feet to be fleet footed?

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                  • Winky
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by raesaad
                    OK.....wait and see the responses you get and holla at me later. I am a realist....you are a nuthugger.
                    And you also have an avatar of a complete bum that got completely owned by Calzaghe but yet you call me a nuthugger. hmmm

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