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  • KillaCamNZ
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    #81
    Originally posted by original zero
    This is why it's so difficult for the organizations to be fair and enforce the rules. The stars will just run to another organization that let's them do whatever they want.

    Shame on anybody who recognizes the WBO. It was founded by the WBA's disgraced bribe taker. It has no history or lineage. Just a belt invented out of thin air by a crook. Recognizing the WBO allows fighters to hide behind fake belts to avoid top fighters. Everybody knew GGG was the top guy at middleweight. Thanks to the WBO, Cotto and Canelo are able to hide from GGG.
    The IBF was founded by Bob Lee - who had to run a country mile later on because he was busted taking bribes.

    The WBC is more bent congress, filing for bankrupcy due to their laundry list of dodgy dealings, and only being saved because an innocent man decided not to bury them.

    The WBA has a history of bribe taking and judge influencing that goes well beyond Bob Lee and his shenanigans. Sachez was the dirty head of the snake. And that's not even digging into the corrupt mess that the NBA was before it.

    Welcome to boxing, Kid. Everything is dirty. You'll learn.

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    • Shape up
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      #82
      Originally posted by bigdunny1
      They said they received the offer and have never denied the amount. If Oscar was lying then it's on GGG own promoter to call him out on it. Even phuk boy abel who without a doubt talks constantly about negotiations refused to dispute the amount. The offer was made it was real disputed by NO ONE in that camp and it was GGG who wouldn't accept and now looking like it backfired.
      That's funny, how did they recieve the offer when it was supposedly a verbal offer, why would K2 get into the dynamics of what was being negotiated when clearly they were looking for ANY reason to avoid the fight, which they have now admitted on a video in another thread, if you think your that important that you should be privy to the negotiations then you are more ****** than I gave you credit for, if the only proof you have that the amount was xxxxxx is that they didn't deny it then I've proved you wrong, I asked for proof, not innuendo, your the preverbial Eskimo that Oscar is selling ice to by the truckload ****head
      Last edited by Shape up; 05-04-2017, 04:19 PM.

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      • Sincingship
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        #83
        Originally posted by Verus
        To make you happy let's say that Canelo will duck both! How many PPV buys do you think a Golovkin vs Khursidze fight draws? Meditate on the question like a koan. You know, like what is the sound of one hand clapping, or if a tree falls in a forest and no one hears it does it make a sound? Don't mean to be harsh, but the lament of "ducking" is both shallow and tiresome.
        This is boxing not the stock exchange. If all you care about is money other people make watch that instead.

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        • Sincingship
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          #84
          Originally posted by Verus
          To make you happy let's say that Canelo will duck both! How many PPV buys do you think a Golovkin vs Khursidze fight draws? Meditate on the question like a koan. You know, like what is the sound of one hand clapping, or if a tree falls in a forest and no one hears it does it make a sound? Don't mean to be harsh, but the lament of "ducking" is both shallow and tiresome.
          Also, I don't want him to duck either. Either would be an acceptable fight to call himself a mw world champion.

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          • Verus
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            #85
            Originally posted by Sincingship
            This is boxing not the stock exchange. If all you care about is money other people make watch that instead.
            In a sense prize fighting really isn't primarily about boxing. Boxing is only the means by which the boxers, promoters, sanctioning bodies, television execs, managers, trainers and all the others make money. I wish it were not so, but it is.

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            • Verus
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              #86
              Originally posted by bigdunny1
              EXACTLY. Just months ago GGG fan boys were saying 15m was too little GGG deserves more he was right not to take the deal. Now 15m looks like a lot of money when you see him in fights that can't draw PPVs and making only about 2m for the trouble. Now all a sudden well of course Goloden Boy lied about the offer. Really? The offer that nobody in the loud mouth GGG camp has ever denied. If the offer was not real or not for the amount Oscar said then GGG needs to fire Loeffler and his entire camp because that's actually worse. That means they are all incompetent and let something stick out there for months that hurt GGG's brand. I know damn well every other top promoter/manager/adviser would be screaming from the roof top if another promoter lied to hurt their fighters name. It's been over 6 months and that has NEVER happened from GGG camp which leads me to believe it's because it's true. Hell they tried a little lie with Saunders and you saw how Saunders and Warren pulled the bytch out Loeffler releasing text message and shyt exposing them.
              Yep. I just don't get it. Best advice I ever got was, "just make sure you don't believe your own hype." I am beginning to think that Loeffler and the others really believed that GGG is this huge PPV draw. And they didn't tumble to the idea that PPV for a boxing match is declining as a viewing platform. Way back when, the entire nation was tuned in to the radio broadcast of Louis vs Schmeling. Now a free broadcast of world class fighters will barely draw 1 million views in the U.S. PPV is a hard sell these days as Golovkin and others have demonstrated.

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              • tokon
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                #87
                Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                Would be funny if Canelo got the Saunders fight after Golovkin passed on it. Funny because everyone on here would piss themselves.
                Hahaha, yes, the Golovkin reaction to that move by Golden Boy would be classic!

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                • original zero
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by KillaCamNZ
                  The IBF was founded by Bob Lee - who had to run a country mile later on because he was busted taking bribes.
                  The IBF never should have been recognized. Two world titles in one world was already enough. Shame on anybody that recognized the IBF. I was born in 1983 and the IBF was already fully accepted by the time I started following the sport in 1988. But at least the IBF gained acceptance on the back of the real heavyweight champion of the world. The WBO gained acceptance simply from UK TV embracing bogus title fights, just as they later did with the WBU as well.


                  The WBC is more bent congress, filing for bankrupcy due to their laundry list of dodgy dealings, and only being saved because an innocent man decided not to bury them.
                  Say whatever you want about the WBC, but there is no bribery scandal. WBA? Major bribery scandal. IBF? Major bribery scandal. WBO? Founded by the WBA's disgraced bribe taker? The WBC? Guilty of trying to reinstate Roy Jones as light heavyweight champion. Far less egregious than selling rankings for cash.


                  The WBA has a history of bribe taking and judge influencing that goes well beyond Bob Lee and his shenanigans. Sachez was the dirty head of the snake. And that's not even digging into the corrupt mess that the NBA was before it.
                  Which is why the WBC has a more credible claim to being the championship of the world via the IBU/NYSAC lineage as opposed to the WBA's NBA lineage.


                  Welcome to boxing, Kid. Everything is dirty. You'll learn.
                  Started working in the industry at 15 and going strong nearly 20 years later. Not a kid and if you ever post something I didn't know, I'll be able to learn. Not holding my breath. Kid.

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                  • bigdunny1
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Shape up
                    That's funny, how did they recieve the offer when it was supposedly a verbal offer, why would K2 get into the dynamics of what was being negotiated when clearly they were looking for ANY reason to avoid the fight, which they have now admitted on a video in another thread, if you think your that important that you should be privy to the negotiations then you are more ****** than I gave you credit for, if the only proof you have that the amount was xxxxxx is that they didn't deny it then I've proved you wrong, I asked for proof, not innuendo, your the preverbial Eskimo that Oscar is selling ice to by the truckload ****head
                    Why would Golden Boy release evidence of the offer to the public when A) Loeffler ALREADY admitted to receiving the offer and B) Loeffler and NOBODY in the GGG camp has ever denied the amount? It's only loser fan girls like yourself denying it existed. The fact the GGG camp let that info sit out there and tarnish GGG name is on them. But sure everyone is just lying on GGG right? Just like Saunders was lying about GGG agreeing to fight him and then pulling out like a bytch after the jacobs fight. They are lying to? Oh wait Loeffler tried to deny that one and got exposed by Saunders who released the text messages. Now I know why the coward GGG camp won't deny the 8 figure offer was on the table because Golden Boy is not puzzzy amateur hour K2 they would release info, fax messages, text messages exposing K2 for liars just like Warren and company pulled that h0e card on Loeffler. Cry yourself to sleep GGG camp turned down 15m and now look like fools because it.

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                    • Shape up
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                      #90
                      So as I said, you have no proof of the offer, just because K2 decided not to argue in a public domain isn't proof, as I said, if they had of gone down that road GBP would have walked away, they have now admitted they were ducking and you look like an imbecile big toilet1

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