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  • monkeyboy
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    #21
    Originally posted by kushking
    I mentioned those fighters BECAUSE their directly relevant whenever anyone is discussing canelo,not to mention the fact that these salty statements are clearly based on gigi fanboism.If you actually had an attention span of more than 3 sec. Youd know I am saying how the only fight that wont draw imbecilic responses is vs gigi,& how once canelo beats him he'll instantly become "aged".pleb
    If you had an attention span of more than three seconds you'd be able to use apostrophes.
    "Youd?" "Wont?" Great job Buddy.

    If your intellect was better you'd probably respond a little less aggressively when called out on your idiocy and also might come up with a better insult than 'pleb'. I'd be interested in knowing how you feel that is an insult and in what context.

    Finally, If you wish to end a statement with an insult that is a one word sentence then capitalize it and end it with some sort of appropriate punctuation.

    Ignoramus!

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      #22
      Eric Bottjer, RocNation Sports matchmaker
      Canelo Alvarez KO Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
      : Alvarez by knockout. He’s just a better fighter. The only thing that gives me pause is the size difference. When the two posed together for the first time, Canelo literally looked like a child standing next to his father (or big brother). It will be fun while it lasts but fighters who take their careers seriously usually top those who dabble with professionalism.

      Lucian Bute, former super middleweight titlist
      Canelo Alvarez TKO 9 Julio Cesar Chavez Jr
      : I think Canelo will stop Chavez Jr. in the ninth round.

      Carlos Cuadras, former WBC junior bantamweight champion
      Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. to beat Canelo Alvarez: I think Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. will win. He has the reach, the power, the distance, the strength…plus he is my friend and I am backing him till the end.

      Robert Diaz, Golden Boy Promotions matchmaker
      Canelo Alvarez KO Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
      : Of course, I am a little biased here but I will try not to be (laughs). Very fun fight while it lasts and competitive for first five rounds, as pride will raise the level of both fighters. This is as personal as it gets. In the end, you have talent, discipline and, to the surprise of many, power that will make the difference. I see either the corner or the referee stopping it between nine or 10 rounds with Chavez Jr. being saved from further punishment.

      Kathy Duva, Main Events CEO
      Canelo Alvarez to beat Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
      : I must pick Canelo. He has really impressed me over the years. He has grown as a fighter by taking on absolutely everyone in his division. He has learned so much during that time and he has some really nice wins on his record. His only loss came when he was very young and relatively inexperienced against Mayweather, the best fighter of his generation. Chavez Jr. is an exciting fighter. But, in my opinion, he is simply not in the same class as Canelo.

      Jeff Fenech, former three-division champion
      Canelo Alvarez KO Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
      : Chavez is a bit bigger but I honestly believe Canelo got the goods and will win and may win by knockout.

      Doug Fischer, ******.com editor
      Canelo Alvarez UD 12 Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
      : I think Chavez Jr. will bring a strong effort and sound game plan to this matchup of Mexican rivals by mixing stick-and-move tactics in with his signature pressure fighting, which will bring out the best in Alvarez. I envision Canelo fighting well on the inside with combination punching and counter-punching well from the outside. Both men will likely present strong body attacks. Chavez may well outwork his rival but Canelo’s superior defense, slip-and-counter ability and accurate power punching will give him the edge on the scorecards after 12 competitive rounds. Canelo by close but unanimous decision.

      Norm Frauenheim, The Ring/www.15rounds.com
      Canelo Alvarez TKO 11 Julio Cesar Chavez Jr
      .: It might be more of an event than a fight but personal animus in the build-up is a sign that this one could be intense, even ugly. Canelo and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. don’t like each other. Chavez Jr. has enough power and perhaps size to make it very interesting. But the fight figures to go the way his career has. It’s been a collection of promising moments, yet devoid of consistency. He’s doesn’t have Dad’s stubborn focus and unyielding toughness. Canelo will pounce at the moment there’s any hint that Chavez is distracted. Canelo’s combos to the body could result in a long, punishing night for Chavez.

      Jeffrey Freeman, KO Digest/TheSweetScience.com
      Canelo Alvarez UD 12 Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
      : This will come down to how fit and motivated Julio Cesar Chavez actually is when he enters the ring. We know Canelo Alvarez will be very ready to fight. If Chavez brings his best Mexican stuff, he’ll make a go of it, pushing Alvarez to a new level. If it’s the same old listless Chavez in there, Junior gets his ears boxed off and loses a wide decision.

      Mikey Garcia, current WBC lightweight titlist
      Canelo Alvarez undecided Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
      : Both of them are great fighters…I had the chance to train with Chavez Jr. for a long period in L.A. He became a close friend; he is such a great person. I know well his skills and what he can do but Canelo is a good fighter. Fans will be the winners this night.

      Humberto “Chiquita” Gonzalez, former unified junior flyweight world champion
      Canelo Alvarez undecided Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
      : It will be a Mexican war. We have to consider that both of them had different training camps. Canelo had to focus to gain weight and Chavez to lose it. Both of them could win. The weight factor will be very important. I am sure there will be a KO. Chavez is the son of my compadre and Canelo fought at the beginning of his career on cards held at my place…I wish them the best.

      Tom Gray, ******.com
      Canelo Alvarez TKO 8 Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
      : I have it on authority that whenever Alvarez is around the 165-pound mark in sparring, he looks positively frightening and that does not bode well for Chavez. Alvarez does almost everything better than his countryman and he is the only dedicated athlete in this matchup. The one thing that Chavez had going for him was his durability but how much of that has been lost with all the bad living and time off? I expect Alvarez to do a serious number on Chavez and land with crazy stuff from the opening bell. Chavez won’t have lost any of his bravery but the punishment will be just too much to bear and I think he’ll be pulled out somewhere after the midway point. Getting your weight down is one thing; being in fighting shape is another. Canelo all day and I would be absolutely stunned if I got this wrong.

      Lee Groves, ******.com
      Canelo Alvarez PTS 12 Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
      : Chavez has the height and reach to force Canelo to chase him, if he so chooses, as well as the power to hurt Alvarez if he connects flush. But Chavez’s nature is to be aggressive and his best chance to win the fight is to hurt Alvarez early and earn his respect. If Chavez packs on the pounds after the weigh-in, as expected, he’ll be able to absorb his opponent’s best punches like Daniel Jacobs did against Gennady Golovkin. But I believe Alvarez will walk out the winner because Canelo is a superb combination puncher, the better technician, the more accurate hitter and the superior defender. Chavez has yet to beat a genuine pound-for-pound talent, a stunning statement, given the length of his career. I think Alvarez, like Sergio Martinez before him, will show Chavez what “elite” really means.

      Robert Guerrero, former two-division titlist
      Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. PTS 12 Canelo Alvarez
      : I think Chavez Jr. is taking this fight very serious and will be in the best shape of his life. He’s got enough fights and experience to beat Canelo. I’m picking Chavez Jr. in an upset but the fight goes the distance.

      Andreas Hale, ******.com and BoxingScene.com
      Canelo Alvarez TKO 9 Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
      : There are so many things to consider heading into this fight that my pick is about as arbitrary as they come. Who knows if Chavez will make weight or be motivated or do anything to be ready for Canelo? What we do know is that Chavez has cinder blocks for feet and is ridiculously slow, compared to Canelo. If Chavez manages to hit his weight and have an excellent camp, he won’t be easy to get rid of. But no matter how great of shape Chavez is, the fact remains that Canelo is the better counterpuncher with speed advantages in every department. The size won’t even matter that much because Canelo routinely enters the ring as damn near a light heavyweight. I figure that Canelo will crank up the pace, as the fight wears on, and finish Chavez late.

      Ricky Hatton, former two-division world champion
      Canelo Alvarez KO 5 Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
      : I see Canelo as one of, if not the best pound-for-pound boxers at the moment. I know its a big clash of Mexican boxers and it will be a great fight whilst it lasts but I think Canelo will stop Chavez maybe around the fifth round. So I’m going for Canelo by KO.

      Mariana “Barby” Juarez, current WBC female bantamweight champion
      Canelo Alvarez PTS 12 Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
      : I think the victory will be a decision for Canelo…but I left a window open. You all know Canelo has not fought heavier fighters. He has had always the weight factor in his favor…This time that’s different.

      Erislandy Lara, junior middleweight titlist and former Canelo opponent
      Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. to beat Canelo Alvarez:
      Two very good warriors will be in the ring on May 6th. I believe Chavez will win the fight based on size. If Chavez makes weight comfortably, his size will overwhelm Canelo.

      Barry McGuigan, former featherweight champion
      Canelo Alvarez PTS 12 Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
      : It seems to me Chavez has got the bit between his teeth and he is getting himself into shape for this fight, it’s at 164.5, not 168. How much that will take out of him is something I don’t know and can’t tell until the first bell. Maybe the only reason Chavez couldn’t do 168 was because he wasn’t focused. He seems to be focused on this fight because there’s a lot of pride at stake. It’s a Mexican showdown between two families. There’s a lot of bragging rights at stake and pride. I hope he’s in good shape because, if he is, we’re in for a good fight. I don’t think Canelo is a devastating puncher. I think he punches hard and Erislandy Lara went the distance and gave him a tough fight and Austin Trout caused him trouble as well and he didn’t get rid of Matthew Hatton. He’s not a devastating puncher; he’s a correct puncher, places his shots well and he’s a very good combination puncher. I do think if Chavez has retained his strength and he’s not too badly weakened, I think it could turn out to be a helluva fight. It could be out to be a long, slow, grinding and stopping Chavez late in the fight but it might well be a distance fight. I don’t see an early fight, whether he’s struggling to make weight or not. I think (Chavez’s) pride and his natural strength will keep him in the fight at least for half-a-dozen rounds. You look at Chavez against (Sergio) Martinez, Andy Lee; you look at him against big strong middleweights and they couldn’t get him out of there. I think he’s got a great chin but if he’s busting his body up to make weight, he must weaken himself. There’s always the possibility he could be ground down. I think it’ll be a terrific battle and could be one of the fights of the year. I think it’ll be a thrilling fight but I still think Canelo will win it and will win it convincingly. Canelo more than likely on points or possibly a late stoppage if Chavez is weakened.

      Duke McKenzie, former three-division
      Canelo Alvarez KO Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.:
      It would be easy to jump on the bandwagon and say Canelo is the best thing since sliced bread. With just one solitary defeat to the maestro, Floyd “Money” Mayweather on his record, he has looked a complete fighter. Is he the stereotypical Mexican fighter? Does he roll with the punches like Julio Cesar Chavez Sr.? Tick. Fight with ferocity like Marco Antonio Barrera? Tick. (Have a) chin like Erik Morales? Tick. It would take a brave man to bet against him. While I expect Chavez Jr. to put up a decent effort, it would take a miracle to pull this one off and, with Dynamo the Magician out of town, I would expect Canelo to break his foe down with his trademark hooks to the body, wearing down Chavez Jr. for a late stoppage win.

      Jolene Mizzone, Main Events matchmaker
      Canelo Alvarez KO Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
      : I see this going to a late KO by Canelo or going to the scorecards and Canelo winning easy. I may be one of the few that doesn’t buy (Chavez winning). Even if JCC is in the shape of his life, he doesn’t have a chance with Canelo. Canelo is just much more seasoned, fought better opposition and a true professional.

      Diego M. Morilla, TheSweetScience.com, ThePrizefighters.com
      Canelo Alvarez UD 12 Julio Cesar Chavez Jr
      : Stylistically, it is still an interesting matchup but the heart and soul of this fight is the national bragging rights of two guys who have grown to stir as much passion in Mexico as any other sports rivalry in history. In the end, it will come down to who wants it more and it’s clearly the “Cinnamon Kid.” He’ll be a solid middleweight by the time he gets to the fight; he’ll have the speed advantage (probably the only fight in which he will ever have it…) and he has vastly improved his defense as well. Junior can try to turn this into a brawl and muddy the waters just enough to get a split nod but, other than that, all signs point to a unanimous decision win for Alvarez.

      Ruben Olivares, former bantamweight world champion
      Canelo Alvarez to beat Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
      : I pick Canelo to beat Chavez Jr. because of his strong dedication to boxing and his enormous pride to win.

      Lupe Pintor, former two-division world champion
      Canelo Alvarez to beat Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
      : I think “Canelo” has had a better career, so better chances. The weight will be against him this time. He has defeated many aspects during his career and I think he will win. Chavez has strength it will be a good fight.

      John J. Raspanti, Maxboxing.com, Ringside Boxing Show, co-author of “Intimate Warfare”
      Canelo Alvarez TKO 8 Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
      : Canelo Alvarez enters the fight as a huge favorite but Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. is a live underdog. He’s the bigger man and will likely weigh about 190 pounds. He’s got a great chin like his legendary daddy. Alvarez is the more skilled fighter. He’s an accurate puncher. He should be able to tag Chavez with his patented hooks to the body and head. Chavez could do well on the inside. If Alvarez runs out of gas, Chavez has a chance to spring the upset. I don’t see that happening. Alvarez will wear Chavez down and stop him in round eight.

      Cliff Rold, BoxingScene.com
      Canelo Alvarez PTS 12 Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
      : Chavez, if he’s in shape, not drained, and focused, has the size, chin and style to give Canelo hell. He looks like he’s in shape. We don’t know yet how hard the weight will be on him but focus often lacks. Chavez has never shown any sense of urgency about his career and cosmetics aren’t enough to sway. Canelo is the better boxer, the better defensive fighter and the biggest money draw in North America. Even if it’s close, it’s going his way.

      Joseph Santoliquito/THE RINGMagazine/******.com/CBSPhilly.com
      Canelo Alvarez KO 9 Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
      : I still need to be convinced Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. is finally taking his vocation seriously. I know there have been some shots of Chavez looking like Hercules but this is a mismatch of skill and physical tools. I know Canelo has never fought beyond 155 pounds before and this fight is at a 164.5-pound catchweight. So Chavez will suck up some pounds and arrive at a blown-up 180. He’ll have enough left for six, maybe seven, rounds and there is a chance we could see some great exchanges. But I don’t see Chavez lasting beyond the eighth round. His history of slovenly training and poor conditioning is just too much to ignore, unless proven otherwise.

      Kostya Tszyu, former undisputed junior welterweight champion
      Canelo Alvarez to beat Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
      : Probably Canelo is a bit too strong for Chavez. I like Julio; I like his attitude but Canelo will be a bit too strong for him. Canelo’s a big puncher and that will play a big role.

      Michael Woods, NYFights.com, ******.com, host of the Everlast podcast “TalkBOX”
      Canelo Alvarez KO Julio Cesar Chavez Jr
      : Yes, Junior is more used to fighting at a higher weight. He is also more used to losing…to having difficulty navigating his purpose in life…at acting in a purely professional manner. Canelo has improved a notch-and-a-half since losing to Floyd Mayweather and Chavez Jr. won’t stop his march. Canelo will stop the son of the legend, who will compete with dignity but lose conclusively.

      Hector Zapari, trainer of WBO super middleweight titlist Gilberto Ramirez
      Canelo Alvarez to beat Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
      : Canelo all the way. He’s a fighter with more resources and much better quality than Junior. He has more experience with better fights to prove more things in the ring and he will be much stronger than Junior. I think Canelo wins by decision or in the late rounds.

      Final tally: 25-3 and two undecided in favor of Canelo Alvarez to win Saturday’s gigantic 164.5-pound catchweight showdown against Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.

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      • Chrismart
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        #23
        Austin Trout

        "Like I said, Chavez Jr. is a big dude," Trout said. "He could be 190 in there after weigh-ins. If Canelo can keep the pace and run around for 12 rounds, he's got it. Canelo is a better fighter. But Chavez is a good fighter, too. Canelo might have bitten off more than he can chew this time."

        The odds are ridiculously high in favor of Alvarez. One of the latest lines has Canelo at minus 650 or, as translation, one would have to bet $100 on Canelo just to win $475.

        But
        ...

        "If I were a betting man, I will give it to Chavez Jr.," Trout said.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Jubei
          So 1 out of 17 experts picks Chavez? LOL.. yep.. we all know why protected Ginger pansy picked Mr Burgerking instead of GGG.
          well said.... Glass- Jaw Khan, Beefy who?, and now Underachieving, pot+smoking Chavez Jr. Way to step up and challenge itself Canelita.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Chrismart
            Austin Trout

            "Like I said, Chavez Jr. is a big dude," Trout said. "He could be 190 in there after weigh-ins. If Canelo can keep the pace and run around for 12 rounds, he's got it. Canelo is a better fighter. But Chavez is a good fighter, too. Canelo might have bitten off more than he can chew this time."

            The odds are ridiculously high in favor of Alvarez. One of the latest lines has Canelo at minus 650 or, as translation, one would have to bet $100 on Canelo just to win $475.

            But
            ...

            "If I were a betting man, I will give it to Chavez Jr.," Trout said.
            Actually it means you'd have to bet 650$ to get back 100$,if it was 1to 6 itd be how you said.

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              #26
              Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER
              Trout and Lara more accomplished than GGG - lol hilarious!!!
              They clearly are much more accomplished at a much younger age,they have fought the best at a young age,who has gigi fought?

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                #27
                Originally posted by kushking
                They clearly are much more accomplished at a much younger age,they have fought the best at a young age,who has gigi fought?
                Trout is currently Irrelevant, and Lara, who's claim to fame is literaly running frm Canelo for 12 RDS, can't even draw flies to crap even in Miami!! GGG has been in the top 3 p4p for years, considered the best MW in the world, and sells out venues on both coasts in US and Europe. Nuf said!

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER
                  Trout is currently Irrelevant, and Lara, who's claim to fame is literaly running frm Canelo for 12 RDS, can't even draw flies to crap even in Miami!! GGG has been in the top 3 p4p for years, considered the best MW in the world, and sells out venues on both coasts in US and Europe. Nuf said!
                  Well gigi has not been fighting any p4p fighters for years. Hes now running scared from jacobs & charlo whos no1 contender after next fight. as soon as his division got competitive he wants to run to 168,& hell Surely want "adjustment fights 1st".

                  And Charlo got his ass kicked for most the fight by a much smaller guy in trout, yet gigi doesnt want to stay @ 160 anymore to fight him because he's about to become mandatory,so he claims" theres no point in remaining after i unify" yet if he unifies he would have unified by only fighting for 2 belts vs vacant paper belt champs who never defended it vs top contenders,& that would mean he didnt ever have to defend 3 of the belts with top10 opponents,sl
                  He forced a purse bid he didn't deserve using a gifted junior wbc belt he got by committee to do so when he got wbc belt from Canelo,he got his vacant wba belt by committee without fighting anyone for it also,then robbed jacobs in his 1st defense of wba belt which gave him lineal wba belt since jacobs had regular wba,he got his ibf belt by fighting a nobody

                  Lemeiux,who never defended his gifted vacant belt,saunders robbed his last opponent & might get beat by his next nobody opponent, so if gigi wins that belt hell move up instead,knowing everyone knows jacobs,charlo are FAR better fighters he avoided & didnt defend his belts against & he wouldnt even be true unified champ until you defend as unified champ all the belts vs no 1 contender.
                  Last edited by kushking; 05-05-2017, 08:30 AM.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by monkeyboy
                    If you had an attention span of more than three seconds you'd be able to use apostrophes.
                    "Youd?" "Wont?" Great job Buddy.

                    If your intellect was better you'd probably respond a little less aggressively when called out on your idiocy and also might come up with a better insult than 'pleb'. I'd be interested in knowing how you feel that is an insult and in what context.

                    Finally, If you wish to end a statement with an insult that is a one word sentence then capitalize it and end it with some sort of appropriate punctuation.

                    Ignoramus!

                    It's hilarious that little belligerent queefs try to turn into grammer ****s after acting like baboon's,proper grammer is only important to lil twats when someone calls them on there fanboi ways.I can give a **** if u dont like my gramma bltch.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by kushking
                      Well gigi has not been fighting any p4p fighters for years. Hes now running scared from jacobs & charlo whos no1 contender after next fight. as soon as his division got competitive he wants to run to 168,& hell Surely want "adjustment fights 1st".

                      And Charlo got his ass kicked for most the fight by a much smaller guy in trout, yet gigi doesnt want to stay @ 160 anymore to fight him because he's about to become mandatory,so he claims" theres no point in remaining after i unify" yet if he unifies he would have unified by only fighting for 2 belts vs vacant paper belt champs who never defended it vs top contenders,& that would mean he didnt ever have to defend 3 of the belts with top10 opponents,sl
                      He forced a purse bid he didn't deserve using a gifted junior wbc belt he got by committee to do so when he got wbc belt from Canelo,he got his vacant wba belt by committee without fighting anyone for it also,then robbed jacobs in his 1st defense of wba belt which gave him lineal wba belt since jacobs had regular wba,he got his ibf belt by fighting a nobody

                      Lemeiux,who never defended his gifted vacant belt,saunders robbed his last opponent & might get beat by his next nobody opponent, so if gigi wins that belt hell move up instead,knowing everyone knows jacobs,charlo are FAR better fighters he avoided & didnt defend his belts against & he wouldnt even be true unified champ until you defend as unified champ all the belts vs no 1 contender.
                      All that hate for GGG... And he is Still UNDEFEATED, top 3 p4p, and universally recognized as the best MW in the world!! And will b the betting favorite over Canelo!!

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