Wilder would have knocked out joshua

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  • 1hourRun
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    #31
    Originally posted by LacedUp
    Well, Molina never touched AJ even if it took 3 rounds. Did you watch the Arreola fight? Probably not.

    and so, it doesn't even begin to compare to the Wilder fight - Who actually made Molina look like a legit contender.
    lol! you really are using Molina as measuring stick! I could hit you below the belt and said Molina is Wilders leftovers and that he soften him up for Joshua...but nah I didnt need it, I'm doing pretty pretty good in this thread.

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      #32
      Deontay Wilder's accomplishments against poor quality opposition and lighter opposition has no direct relevance to how he will accomplishments will be against top quality opposition and heavier opposition, especially heavier opposition + skilled opposition combined.

      There is absolutely 0 evidence that Deontay Wilder has more punching power than Wladimir Klitschko. Any power punching feats of Deontay Wilder, Wladimir Klitschko already has similar or better feats, but against better quality opposition that are higher ranked. That's a fact!

      Until Deontay Wilder steps up in competition and continues having the same KO success (highly unlikely) against better quality opposition, there is absolutely no reason why anybody should believe he could KO top quality opposition as he is doing to lower quality opposition. The one top 10 ranked opponent he fought (Bermane Stiverne), he failed to KO him (even though Stiverne was ill on fight night). It's even more unlikely he could KO Alexander Povetkin, Anthony Joshua, Kubrat Pulev and etc.

      There are many examples of a boxer having 100% or close to 100% KO percentage against poor quality opposition, but as soon as they stepped up to fighting opponents from the top 10 rankings (sometimes even a slight step up), their KO% continued to diminish and decrease.

      Wladimir Klitschko has knocked out opponents that are much higher ranked than the opponents Wilder has been knocking out. Examples are Kubrat Pulev, Eddie Chambers and etc. Wladimir Klitschko has knocked out more opponents that have previously not been knocked out before. Even better, he has knocked out more opponents at heavyweight in history that were previously undefeated prior to fighting him.

      Deontay Wilder doesn't even come close! That is an undeniable fact!

      Also, punching power is the last thing a boxer loses as an attribute. So I doubt his power was any different when he fought Anthony Joshua than in the previous years.

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        #33
        Lmao

        Wilder gets sparked out within 2 rounds

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        • LacedUp
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          #34
          Originally posted by 1hourRun
          lol! you really are using Molina as measuring stick! I could hit you below the belt and said Molina is Wilders leftovers and that he soften him up for Joshua...but nah I didnt need it, I'm doing pretty pretty good in this thread.
          Yeah you could say that, but then you'd look like even more of an idiot than you already do.

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            #35
            Wilder has the power to knock him out but Joshua would probably give 'em a boxing lesson. Wilder was getting outboxed by some security guard from Detroit in his last fight.

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              #36
              Originally posted by 1hourRun
              Pillsbury boy Andy Ruiz was in the top ten so was Whyte, whats that say about the division? Wilders stats are legit like him or not.
              Firstly I like Wilder, secondly did he fight whyte and Ruiz? Because I sure haven't seen those fights. Wouldn't mind those names neither.

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                #37
                Wilder can't trhow straight punches. I hope this fight happens after AJ v Wlad 2 or Fury, just so AJ can do away with Wilder in easy fashion.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Ray*
                  Firstly I like Wilder, secondly did he fight whyte and Ruiz? Because I sure haven't seen those fights. Wouldn't mind those names neither.
                  I was replying the point you made earlier, I think it was regarding Deontay Wilders high accuracy in the heavyweight division ; my point was that theres very little difference in terms of skill or resume when you reach the top ten from the top 20-40 contenders really ; the division is so bad that just one win can shoot you right up there as in the case of Dyllan Whyte ( whats he done so special ) or Andy Ruiz....therefore no matter who Wilder is fighting achieving the highest punch accuracy in the division has little to do with the level of competition in the current state of this HW class.

                  If it was so easy why aren't these guys that are fighting other bums come close to Wilders %? the reason is the division is crap and that's not Wilder fault.
                  Last edited by 1hourRun; 05-01-2017, 06:13 AM.

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                    #39
                    Wilder is too much of a wildcard.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by soul_survivor
                      Wilder can't trhow straight punches. I hope this fight happens after AJ v Wlad 2 or Fury, just so AJ can do away with Wilder in easy fashion.
                      Funny I thought I shared his stats a few pages back ; hes leading the division in jabs...I think thats a straight punch? dont let his windmills fool you, Deontay is more effective in his unorthodox style then all the other HW's.
                      Last edited by 1hourRun; 05-01-2017, 08:42 AM.

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