Why are people over exxagerating the stoppage?

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  • Ray*
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    #11
    Originally posted by LaidOut
    Yeah, this. After 2 KDs, Wlad needed to at least be throwing back and not just covering up. I have no problem whatsoever with the stoppage, and Wlad didn't either. But I agree that AJ was not landing anything of consequence, and I'll always be curious if Wlad could have withstood that sequence, if AJ may have emptied his tank again, and could have been ripe for the taking. Watch AJ when the fight is called off, he turned around and walked back as if he was ready to die.

    It might not be as good as the first fight, but I want to see a rematch.
    Every fight is a learning experience for AJ, he turned around and walked back because he learned from the 5th round, he had both his hands up and was thinking he already took out Wlad, when he finally did in the 11th round you could tell he had learned already. Joshua is a novice but one that had to be pushed quicker due to his competition.

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    • Madison Boxing
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      #12
      dont think they are talking about the stoppage as such, more the sequence that initiated it, that uppercut was certainly 'destructive'

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        #13
        Originally posted by Thraxox
        Some are calling it brutal, some are calling in 'destruction, and some are just saying it is a brutal destruction, when in reality Wlad barely got hit in the final three seconds before the stoppage. He was slipping and catching shots with his gloves while his head leaned away from the punches, and only gets hit with grazing shots, and finished on his feet. Yet people pretend like it was how Hatton and Pacquiao lost by KO.
        So we should forget about how AJ brutally sent him to the floor twice with vicious combos and one of the craziest uppercuts we've seen in the HW division EVER, because the ref stepped in to save Wlad?

        Not taking anything away from Wlad, because that was the best fight he ever fought against a top level fighter IMO and he showed crazy heart to get up when he shouldn't have been able to. But he was brutally stopped even if he wasn't on the ground when it was called off.

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          #14
          Originally posted by LacedUp
          So we should forget about how AJ brutally sent him to the floor twice with vicious combos and one of the craziest uppercuts we've seen in the HW division EVER, because the ref stepped in to save Wlad?

          Not taking anything away from Wlad, because that was the best fight he ever fought against a top level fighter IMO and he showed crazy heart to get up when he shouldn't have been able to. But he was brutally stopped even if he wasn't on the ground when it was called off.
          You got valid points but at the same time Joshua had thrown 49 punches in round 11, Wladimir was defending some of those punches. Wladimir said something to the referee immediately after it was stopped too. It's possible that Joshua would have gassed again, not saying it's controversial though.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Someone88
            You got valid points but at the same time Joshua had thrown 49 punches in round 11, Wladimir was defending some of those punches. Wladimir said something to the referee immediately after it was stopped too. It's possible that Joshua would have gassed again, not saying it's controversial though.
            Wlad had no business going on after the first or second KD. he was carrying on on heart alone and was clearly out of it.

            Totally different than in round 5.

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              #16
              Originally posted by LacedUp
              Wlad had no business going on after the first or second KD. he was carrying on on heart alone and was clearly out of it.

              Totally different than in round 5.
              I think maybe another 5 seconds could have been given, I can see what you are saying and it's a fair call.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Someone88
                I think maybe another 5 seconds could have been given, I can see what you are saying and it's a fair call.
                I think that could have been dangerous for Wlad. It was the correct stoppage and the ref gave Wlad the chance to stop on his feet as opposed to on the floor.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by LacedUp
                  I think that could have been dangerous for Wlad. It was the correct stoppage and the ref gave Wlad the chance to stop on his feet as opposed to on the floor.
                  True but it's quite possible that Joshua would have gassed again too, wonder what Wladimir said to the referee but he hasn't made complaints so far. Seems like the right call to make.

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