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Name 6 fighters that are active today who could go down as all time greats and why
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Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View PostI haven't anointed Loma just yet. He has a way to go. He needs to get some big wins over Linares and/or Mikey, and do some unification. However, it will be difficult (it already is) for him to get these title fights since champions in two divisions have already been ducking him.
I'm not so impressed with where Froch, Kessler and Dawson were ranked because they were in weak divisions and their skills are limited. Froch being the best of the bunch, but it was a controversial decision.
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Wladimir Klitschko is for sure. If Joshua crushes him inside of a minute, he still goes down as an ATG. He stayed on top too long and made too many defenses not to be. He's set.
I can't swear to anybody else except for Pacquiao of course. There are some possibilities but they all need to do more IMO. ATG shouldn't be easy to achieve in any way. But we'll see what happens.
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Ward, obviously. A clear win in a Kovalev rematch arguably gets him to ATG status.
Loma, again obviously. The potential is outstanding and he's off to a terrific start.
If Joshua lives up to the hype, he can dominate a weak division and end up a heavyweight ATG, at least.
If Kovalev gets a win over Ward this time and beats some of the potential names at LHW, he can be an ATG in that division.
I'm not enough an expert on Gonzalez to say for sure about him.
Honestly, I don't know other than that. Those are the only names that jump out at me as having a clear chance, and other than Ward none of them are close.
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Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View PostWho did Kessler and Abraham beat that were so great? Froch was a legit SMW, but again, one can make an argument that he got robbed versus Ward. Ward was fortunate he never had to fight Dirrell and quite honestly he could have made the move to 175 much sooner when it was a lot deeper with talent.
And Ward moved up to fight the best LHW since Hopkins beat Tarver. So no, he could not have moved up sooner and fought anyone better.
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Originally posted by bojangles1987 View PostWTF, no. No one can make any argument based on reality that Froch was robbed vs. Ward. Not even close. Dude lost and lost very clearly.
And Ward moved up to fight the best LHW since Hopkins beat Tarver. So no, he could not have moved up sooner and fought anyone better.
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View PostLoma
One of the greatest ams with great resume for a guy with so few fights
Ward one of the only in history to win multiple titles @ 168,175 arguable deepest tool box, highest ring IQ since Hopkins and money era
Kovalev most dominant light heavy champ since Roy
Chocolatito 4 weight champ long undefeated streak, ran through 105-112 like no one in history
Bud Crawford 2 time lineal champ one of the most versatile in the game
Mikey Garcia consummate boxer puncher, good at everything, great at nothing with one punch power
All of them have have unified and/or moved up to win titles in more than one division
All have solid resumes
All have top notch skills
All are arguably top ten P4P
All are in or near their prime with years left in the game
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Originally posted by bigdramashow View Postfroh wasnt robbed but the fight was a lot closer than people on here make out. the judges were correct with scorecards. i had ward 115-113.
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