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  • #31
    Originally posted by LacedUp View Post


    Not exactly what happened. but love the exaggeration.
    Watch him walking back to the corner at the end of the round, he couldn't even walk in a straight line. He was definitely all over the place but his conditioning kept him in it. His legs weren't all there though.

    Even if you want to call it an exaggeration that he was on "***** street", it's not an exaggeration to say he was clearly hurt from the only clean shot he's taken thus far. Nobody can say otherwise.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
      Watch him walking back to the corner at the end of the round, he couldn't even walk in a straight line. He was definitely all over the place but his conditioning kept him in it. His legs weren't all there though.

      Even if you want to call it an exaggeration that he was on "***** street", it's not an exaggeration to say he was clearly hurt from the only clean shot he's taken thus far. Nobody can say otherwise.
      He took a good shot and did what any seasoned pro would do, which was to grab his opponent and prevent him from throwing more shots to his chin.

      If he had a weak chin he would have gone down from that shot or not recovered. He was stiff from the first bell, in my mind had more to do with his personal feelings toward Whyte and being obsessed with knocking him out early, rather than the shot he took .

      It was a good shot of which he recovered from after being a little hurt.

      It's not like he was all over the place.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
        He took a good shot and did what any seasoned pro would do, which was to grab his opponent and prevent him from throwing more shots to his chin.

        If he had a weak chin he would have gone down from that shot or not recovered. He was stiff from the first bell, in my mind had more to do with his personal feelings toward Whyte and being obsessed with knocking him out early, rather than the shot he took .

        It was a good shot of which he recovered from after being a little hurt.

        It's not like he was all over the place.
        Haha you're deluded, he was clearly more than a "little hurt" - he could barely even get back to his corner, he was walking towards the the ropes instead of the corner.

        It wasn't even a huge shot either. Whyte can hit a bit but he only clipped him on the way in, it was hardly a full blooded shot.

        It was shades of Frank Bruno when he used to get caught.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
          Haha you're deluded, he was clearly more than a "little hurt" - he could barely even get back to his corner, he was walking towards the the ropes instead of the corner.

          It wasn't even a huge shot either. Whyte can hit a bit but he only clipped him on the way in, it was hardly a full blooded shot.

          It was shades of Frank Bruno when he used to get caught.





          Yeah, that left hook that Whyte caught Joshua with was one of the worst kind to get hit with, the ones that you don't see coming. Joshua to his credit said that even though he won he felt like it was a loss because he was angry with himself and his performance against Whyte. He felt he got careless and too wrapped up into the emotions and bad blood he had against Whyte and was throwing punches carelessly forgetting about defense. Fair enough.


          You must have forgot though that Wladimir Klitschko got knocked out by Ross Puritty, Corrie Sanders and Lamon Brewster. And he was also dropped numerous times by Sam Peter. He just recently lost to Tyson Fury. He's coming off a long layoff. He's 41 years old. And he's going straight into a fight with a guy in Joshua who has been active and fighting regularly and is dangerous.

          I guess whoever lands that big shot first. It's going to be tactical and a feeling out process in the beginning. Because I'm sure both of these guys know that they can get taken out with one big shot. I just think at 41 years old, the wear and tear and ring rust will play a part. When you get as old as Klitschko is, the reflexes don't respond like before, they get slower. And a lot of these guys, there mind will tell them do this, do that but the body doesn't respond. Aka the term, can't pull the trigger. But let's see.

          I've got Joshua winning this, but we will see what happens.
          Last edited by The Time; 04-17-2017, 05:45 AM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by The Time View Post
            Yeah, that left hook that Whyte caught Joshua with was one of the worst kind to get hit with, the ones that you don't see coming. Joshua to his credit said that even though he won he felt like it was a loss because he was angry with himself and his performance against Whyte. He felt he got careless and too wrapped up into the emotions and bad blood he had against Whyte and was throwing punches carelessly forgetting about defense. Fair enough.


            You must have forgot though that Wladimir Klitschko got knocked out by Ross Puritty, Corrie Sanders and Lamon Brewster. And he was also dropped numerous times by Sam Peter. He just recently lost to Tyson Fury. He's coming off a long layoff. He's 41 years old. And he's going straight into a fight with a guy in Joshua who has been active and fighting regularly and is dangerous.

            It's not like Joshua didn't even see it coming. He was just careless and jumped right into it. I'm sure he wouldn't do that with Wlad.

            Anyway, all i was saying is he's been caught clean once and was genuinely hurt, that's not really up for debate. It's just fact. So anyone looking at it objectively would have to say there is a serious question mark about his chin. Maybe he will prove he has a solid chin, but i wouldn't say the signs look that good.

            There's no doubt Wlad can be hurt. We have seen it before and may see it again in this fight. On the flipside, Klitschko could hurt anybody too but whether he can still pull the trigger is another thing completely, it hasn't looked like it in his last few fights but then Fury never really let him get comfortable enough to do so, it was an awful style for Wlad. Joshua is a lot more orthodox and will be right there infront of Wlad. If Wlad can get comfortable with the jab and bringing his right hand after it, his experience might see him through.

            This is why it's an intriguing one. My belief is that if this was 4-5 years ago, i'd have said Joshua is almost a tailor made opponent for Wlad in terms of style...but this isn't 5 years ago and Wlad is now 41 and not been in a ring since 2015.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
              It's not like Joshua didn't even see it coming. He was just careless and jumped right into it. I'm sure he wouldn't do that with Wlad.

              Anyway, all i was saying is he's been caught clean once and was genuinely hurt, that's not really up for debate. It's just fact. So anyone looking at it objectively would have to say there is a serious question mark about his chin. Maybe he will prove he has a solid chin, but i wouldn't say the signs look that good.

              There's no doubt Wlad can be hurt. We have seen it before and may see it again in this fight. On the flipside, Klitschko could hurt anybody too but whether he can still pull the trigger is another thing completely, it hasn't looked like it in his last few fights but then Fury never really let him get comfortable enough to do so, it was an awful style for Wlad. Joshua is a lot more orthodox and will be right there infront of Wlad. If Wlad can get comfortable with the jab and bringing his right hand after it, his experience might see him through.

              This is why it's an intriguing one. My belief is that if this was 4-5 years ago, i'd have said Joshua is almost a tailor made opponent for Wlad in terms of style...but this isn't 5 years ago and Wlad is now 41 and not been in a ring since 2015.



              Oh yeah, for sure Joshua got hurt. But I clearly saw he didn't see that punch, he was going in aggressively and the left hook came and hit him. He didn't see it, that's why it hurt him so bad. I was just watching it right now. But I have heard about some rumors of previous sparring sessions with him as well. So the chin may very well be questionable.

              We already know Klitschko can be hurt. But yeah, if this was Klitschko from a few years ago, I'm pretty sure Eddie Hearn would know that Joshua at this point wouldn't be ready for him. We still have to see how Joshua's full career plays out when comparisons are made who would win prime for prime.

              But since Klitschko is 41, hasn't looked too great in his last few fights. Is coming off a long layoff. And Joshua where he is right now, yeah the fight makes sense to make right now.

              I think it's probably going to come down to whoever lands that first big shot. I never was a fan of Klitschko's jab, clinch, jab, clinch, jab, clinch style. Pretty boring.


              So I'm hoping for the new blood to take over and for the new guys to bring the Heavyweights back. Boxing needs the Heavyweight division back. It's been dead since Lennox Lewis retired. At least here in the U.S. After Lennox, Holyfield and Tyson left, the Heavyweight division has been dead. The Klitschko's never grabbed the attention of the American fans, they felt they were boring. Plus there was no talent, no one to fight in the division. Similar to when Larry Holmes reigned as champ.


              I'm just hoping for a renaissance with the Heavyweights. The new blood are starting to make the division fun again. So naturally I'm rooting for AJ. But we will see.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by BoxingFan85 View Post
                It sure will be fun to see AJ getting a boxing lesson..
                A clinching lesson.

                Originally posted by Dat View Post
                I think Wlad wins, he will outbox Joshua.
                outclinch.

                Originally posted by Karoriori View Post
                AJ will get humiliated. He's overrated
                I don't know about overrated, but one thing about him: He can't seem to fight in the pocket. He needs range to be effective. Which is why I think Grabomir is a bad style matchup, because he does more damage inside than at range.

                Originally posted by johnnycontrolet View Post
                Wlad wins inside 9 rounds
                I say it goes the distance. But I do see a Grabomir win.

                Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
                If I remember correctly, everyone including myself, were saying Povetkin would get his ass beat and the after thought of that fight was that Povetkin was tougher than expected, not that there was any surprise in how the fight went other than the disgusting amount of clinches Wlad initiated.
                Across social media, it was expected that PEDvetkin would be much more active and aggressive than he was, and that he would catch Grabomir with a good shot that would take him down.

                That's why he was grabbing onto the PED'd one for dear life. He felt that power early on and wanted no part of it - and the ref was perfectly happy to see Grabomir keep winning fights.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by revelated View Post
                  A clinching lesson.



                  outclinch.



                  I don't know about overrated, but one thing about him: He can't seem to fight in the pocket. He needs range to be effective. Which is why I think Grabomir is a bad style matchup, because he does more damage inside than at range.



                  I say it goes the distance. But I do see a Grabomir win.



                  Across social media, it was expected that PEDvetkin would be much more active and aggressive than he was, and that he would catch Grabomir with a good shot that would take him down.

                  That's why he was grabbing onto the PED'd one for dear life. He felt that power early on and wanted no part of it - and the ref was perfectly happy to see Grabomir keep winning fights.

                  Yeah after eating quite a few jabs & an occasional right hand..

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                  • #39
                    I know this is subjective and a number of lists can be respected, but I wanted to share my top 10 Heavyweights of All Time:


                    1. Muhammad Ali
                    2. Joe Louis
                    3. Rocky Marciano
                    4. Jack Dempsey
                    5. George Foreman
                    6. Joe Frazier
                    7. Larry Holmes
                    8. Lennox Lewis
                    9. Evander Holyfield
                    10. Mike Tyson
                    Last edited by The Time; 04-17-2017, 10:01 AM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
                      Watch him walking back to the corner at the end of the round, he couldn't even walk in a straight line. He was definitely all over the place but his conditioning kept him in it. His legs weren't all there though.

                      Even if you want to call it an exaggeration that he was on "***** street", it's not an exaggeration to say he was clearly hurt from the only clean shot he's taken thus far. Nobody can make me believe otherwise.
                      There. Fixed it for ya.

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