Fully Natty Brah? Or Nah? OFFICIAL "Who is on What" Thread

[Cheek busting]

daniel jacobs was on something....

I'm almost certain Daniel Jacobs illegally obtained a prescription-based diuretic to make weight.

As far as androgen-based PEDS?? There's nothing that screams he's using.

Any boxer who makes these drastic weight-cuts, and then balloon back up to around 20 pounds within 36 hours, are most likely using a diuretic to make weight.

Chavez Jr. was popped using a diuretic to make weight before, and based on the allegations that he's had other people piss in cups for him on numerous occasions for post-fight drug test, I am certain he used it more than the one time he got caught to make the 160 limit.

[just the facts]

daniel jacobs was on something....

I'm losing total respect for you. First, with ZERO proof you post that Andre Ward is a wife beater and why? Because it hurts your pride that your hero (g string) ducked a Ward fight. This is a truly shytty thing to post about anyone with absolutely no proof. And now you're accusing Jacobs of PED use with ZERO proof and why? Because in your hero's one true test (Jacobs fight) g string barely sc****d by. Maybe I'm the dummy here, I just thought you were better than that.

[Madison Boxing]

I'm losing total respect for you. First, with ZERO proof you post that Andre Ward is a wife beater and why? Because it hurts your pride that your hero (g string) ducked a Ward fight. This is a truly shytty thing to post about anyone with absolutely no proof. And now you're accusing Jacobs of PED use with ZERO proof and why? Because in your hero's one true test (Jacobs fight) g string barely sc****d by. Maybe I'm the dummy here, I just thought you were better than that.

he wasnt on vada until late on and he looked ****ing huge. working with victor conte. compare his physique to his other fights. he was on PEDS- end of.

[Cheek busting]

You'll get attacked as soon as you mention someone's favourite fighter.

Why don't you start mentioning someone?

From the past, I think Pacquiao is a case of PED/HGH use. Also Mayweather.

From today I don't trust at all fighters that:

1) Cut near 20 pounds to make weight.
2) Avoid VADA if they can.
3) Fight two times a year which gives them 4 months untested before each fight.

That's my two cents.

Heh, yup, you right! Hopefully we can rustle as many jimmies as possible! Get these racists all fired up and out of their comfort zone, where they're used to nobody speaking the truth.

I think your list is a good check-list... Maybe the fighting twice a year not so much, but the first two absolutely. Any fighter who is ballooning up near 20 pounds post weigh-in, is almost certainly AT LEAST using an illegally obtained prescription-based diuretic. And very well using something androgen-based like WINSTROL, which helps you maintain lean muscle mass while burning fat during cutting phases.


I also agree about Pac, and Floyd. I think Floyd definitely was using something during the last stage of his career.

If you notice, those who are always shouting the loudest about accusing others, are the ones who are guilty themselves! EX: Lamont Peterson accusing Amir Khan, and he pops dirty... Andre Berto accusing Victor Ortiz and he pops dirty.


Moreover, he's a fun little fact: Two of Mayweather Sr.'s fighters tested positive for a diuretic, and an enhanced testosterone ratio (J'Leon Love, and Mickey Bey, respectively). LOL, Mickey Bey's Testosterone ratio was actually THE SECOND HIGHEST IN THE HISTORY of the state of Nevada since they've been testing fighters for it! How crazy is that! It was 60:1 , when the max-allowed limit for athletes is 6:1, and the normal range is like 3:1. He friggen has the testosterone of a RACE HORSE!!!

Coincidence? You be the judge...

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...sterone-levels

"Kizer said Bey's T/E ratio was the second-highest ever in Nevada history, with another fighter once having a ratio of more than 60-1. Elevated testosterone suggests steroid usage."

[just the facts]

he wasnt on vada until late on and he looked ****ing huge. working with victor conte. compare his physique to his other fights. he was on PEDS- end of.

And for the second day in a row (that I know of) you're posting totally ignorant shyte with ZERO proof because it fits your agenda. I just thought you were a better person than that. My mistake.

[GhostofDempsey]

I suspect:

Marquez
Mayweather
Cuadras
Berchelt
Klitschko
Holyfield
RJJ
Arce

Just about any fighter associated with Memo.

[GGG Gloveking]

I think anyone who isn't signed up for the WBC clean 365 program, or whatever it's called, is suspect. Like it has been noted, fighting only a couple times a year allows a window for deception and shouldn't be allowed

[tokon]

Considering you can cycle off in advance of training camp and easily pass a drugs test, id say most of them are using something.

Random year-round 24/7 testing is required however there are numerous obstacles to that i.e. cost, responsibility for administration, etc.

The msain problem is that there is no real desire to clean up that aspect of the sport; many of the fighters, trainers, managers and promoters have inside knowledge of what is going on yet remain silent. PED use is institutionilised in boxing (as with many other sports)

[tokon]

"Any boxer who makes these drastic weight-cuts, and then balloon back up to around 20 pounds within 36 hours, are most likely using a diuretic to make weight."

That depends on weight class, as the amount of weight that can be "cut" is bodyweight dependent.

[DinoCop]

People who are looking like bodybuilders are bodybuilders and budybuilding is done with peds.
Sometimes you guys need a simple eastern to see things among all those numbers, when you need it i'm there...