Comments Thread For: Golovkin-Saunders Unlikely For June, GGG To Wait For Canelo

[BigStomps]

They are giving this t-shirt away for FREE to anyone that buys the McGregor/Mayweather fight. I don't want to hear one person Bi@tch about paying $99.95 to watch that fight.

Lol, en serio!

[Sledgeweather17]

Their blatant hypocrisy aside, Golovkin and co gotta be the dumbest motherfuuckers in the world. Lol, I bet Oscar gonna end up making a Canelo vs Saunders fight in september in leave Golovkin in the dirt.

[OnePunch]

So what's going on with the IBF mandatory? If the IBF calls the mandatory GGG has to fight Johnson. Golden Boy is Johnson's promoter. They can petition the IBF to call the fight and really fuck over GGG

if GGG planned on getting all the belts, his next fight would have HAD to have been the Saunders unification, or an IBF mando. Those are the only 2 ways for him to keep the IBF belt.

Going straight to Canelo (if that fight even happens) would result in GGG getting stripped of the IBF belt......

[bigdunny1]

I called it last year. GGG is now like everyone else, a two fight a year fighter.

Absolutely nothing prevented GGG from fighting 3 times last year, and nothing prevented GGG from fighting 3 times this year.

Yup the Jacobs fight and how negotiations played out is another head scratcher that screams K2 is amateur hour. They had a Dec HBO date and blew because they were being cheap and difficult. Squabbling with Jacobs over peanuts. Causing them to lose the Dec date a shot at fighting 3 times in 2016 and their schedule of fighting TWICE before a Sept Canelo date. What money they had to sacrifice back in Sept/Oct to make the fight in Dec they would of more the made up for by fighting twice Dec/April. Instead they cut off their nose to spite their face for a few pennies and instead of 2 paychecks got only 1 paycheck in March.

But the larger point is the narrative everyone is ducking GGG...BS him and his joke squad promoter are turning down fights or making fights difficult. Jacobs was like pulling teeth just to get made. We see the circus Saunders was and at the end of the day Warren and company exposed Loeffler as a lying scumbag. You saw how they got exposed with ward. You see what went on with froch and on and on. They foolishly killed a 2016 canelo fight by refusing to drop a few lbs even though they are record saying 154 or 168 and said BEFORE canelo/cotto no problem going down in weight for a fight with canelo. But they switched up months later by thinking the mando gave them leverage to dictate terms to the A side and it backfired. Before jacobs fight had 15m offer to fight canelo and they turned it down. The same idiot who made only 2.5m to fight jacobs turned down a career 15m payday? People will fight GGG but they refuse to make any concessions either refuse to go up or down in weight, price them selves out, or one excuse after another why they turn down fights. At some point the problem isn't everybody else GGG is the one constant and foolish business decisions are why he is 35 with no big names to speak of.

[HanzGruber]

if GGG planned on getting all the belts, his next fight would have HAD to have been the Saunders unification, or an IBF mando. Those are the only 2 ways for him to keep the IBF belt.

Going straight to Canelo (if that fight even happens) would result in GGG getting stripped of the IBF belt......

Step aside money?

[aboutfkntime]

So Saunders is more difficult than Canelo. GGG rather face Canelo than Saunders according to u.

he won't take EITHER of those fights until after he breaks Hopkins "record"

they will refuse Canelo's offer for September, complaining about the split

the fight will happen late 2018, after the record has been broken

THAT is why they refused to negotiate with Canelo on weight..... THAT is why they refused a small fortune in the form of an 8-figure sum to fight Canelo..... THAT is why they tried to kill the Jacobs fight by forcing an early purse-bid..... and THAT is why they suddenly don't want to fight Billy Joe Saunders for the remaining middleweight strap

I hope that OnePunch is paying attention..... so that all of those strange things that don't make sense to him, suddenly become clearer

[future hendrixx]

Why are you hoping GGG doesn't get the Canelo fight? You don't want to see the best fights? BTW didn't you read the article? GGG still wants all the belts, but he's not superman. These other champs only fight every 6 months for a reason. GGG has been that incredible exception to the rule the last few years, which is one of the reasons he has so many fans, but he's still human. He just fought 12 rounds with a cruiserweight, and at 35 years old I guess his body needs more than 3 months to recover. Maybe if he had KO'd Jacobs, it would be different.

It kind of looks like letting Jacobs weigh in early, then skip the IBF same day weigh-in, has not only made GGG take unnecessary punishment, but ****ed up his entire year's schedule, too. One thing I will agree with the GGG haters on: Tom Loeffler does not have his **** together, at all.

everytime you ggg groupies talk about that fight jacobs gets bigger. he was 180, 190 ,200! so many damn excuses. it was his first ever step up in competition in his whole career and barely squeaked out a win.

my criticism with "all the belts" is this is the excuse they used to turn down fights with guys lower or higher in weight. they kept saying it was their first priority to collect all the belts. now we see it was nonsense. ggg chasing after the money instead of history. and its not even a sure thing. if chavez makes it interesting ggg will have to wait another year..again.

[Boxing Logic]

they are taking the fights they want, and passing on the rest

just like EVERY other fighter

if they could fight a TBA in Fcukistan, they would do it

but nope, because they had to fight Saunders, they passed

NOW, they will happily wait for Canelo..... despite Tom Loeffler admitting a few days ago, that waiting for Canelo would be silly/pointless

I told you all what's up

True aboutfkntime, but the difference is the fighters GGG wants are a lot better than the fighters other guys are willing to fight. What other fighter cancels a date and waits 3 extra months just to get a 185 pound Danny Jacobs in the ring and overpay him to do it? Yeah yeah I know DJ was the mandatory, but he was a mandatory with a 25% split, and he made it known he would never take that. So if GGG wanted to swerve that fight he could have just taken it to purse bid and Jacobs would have dropped out. Plus Haymon asked for an interim fight first and GGG's team said no. GGG wanted that fight, with a taller, longer, faster, heavier, powerful 185 lbs fighter who can switch stances. Who else is chasing fights like that willingly, and even overpaying those guys?

Hell I am a Lomachenko fan, and I believe he wants Mikey Garcia, but do you think he would overpay Garcia to get in the ring with him? Hell no, you don't overpay to TAKE a risk, you overpay to capitalize on someone else's risk. But that's what is different about GGG, he paid to take a risk.

What other small middleweight was willing to fight Carl Froch, who like Ward at 168 is basically a light heavyweight who drains to 168? That dude is huge, but GGG called him out. Now they're talking about Gilberto Ramirez, another huge 168. What other small middleweight is calling out the best 168 pounder who happens to be a 6'2 southpaw with speed and power and a huge reach advantage?

Obviously that fight hasn't happened yet, but it's not like Gilberto is a huge name that benefits them to talk about for no reason. They wouldn't keep bringing up that fight happening if they weren't serious about making it.

So I see your point, but I think you're missing the entire picture. You're basically saying people are only willing to do what they're willing to do, which is like saying nothing. It's like saying me and Usain Bolt are both only willing to run as fast as we are willing to run. OK true, but that doesn't mean Usain Bolt doesn't run way faster than me.

Same applies here. Gervonta Davis and GGG are both only willing to fight the guys they want to fight, but GGG wants to fight everyone in his division, while Gervonta Davis, or at least his team, does not want him to fight everyone in his division yet. So there's a difference, yes?

As for BJS, GGG still wants that fight, the timing just did not work out. GGG took 12 rounds of punches from a powerful guy who outweighed him by 10 to 15 pounds. Do you have any idea what that does to the body? Curtis Stevens experienced that for 3 rounds and was knocked out cold. Boxing is not a game. If you want to blame anyone, blame GGG's team. They want to believe he's superman. They let Jacobs weigh in early and miss the IBF weigh in, bulk up like crazy. They seem to think that because GGG can take punches from super middleweights in sparring, with sparring gloves, that he can't be hurt at all. They don't seem to understand that the #2 middleweight in the world wearing puncher's gloves, who then bulks up to 185 pounds, hits a hell of a lot harder than the 40th ranked Super Middleweights they use for sparring partners in sparring gloves.

Just like Mikey Garcia is a lightweight, but he hits way harder than the 40th ranked welterweight. Just like GGG is a middleweight, but he hits way harder than Najib Mohameddi and guys like that at light heavyweight. But GGG's team doesn't seem to understand this concept, so they thought GGG could just take out an elite, bigger guy in 3 rounds, and then fight three months later. They clearly miscalculated, but don't blame GGG for it. You also have to factor in that Oscar is being a diva about the Canelo fight, using this three month promotion excuse. But really I think it has way more to do with GGG needing more time to recover from the Jacobs fight than it does Oscar.

Plus, even if BJS is not a power puncher like Jacobs, you have to think this is a learning moment for GGG's team. They now have to realize that if the BJS fight goes 12, GGG could be sore again, and then they'd be at a disadvantage against Canelo just three months later. So there is no perfect scenario. They must have just decided to play it safe and fight Canelo in September. Let's just hope the fight happens. Clearly, GGG is getting older, so these fights really need to start happening already.

[OnePunch]

Step aside money?

not in the IBF........

[aboutfkntime]

whatever dude. you can spin this however you want, but the FACT is that Cotto paid GGG $800k to NOT have to fight him.

Nothing else you have to say on the subject means a damn thing. $800k dumbass

a step-aside fee is OFTEN for one fight only..... and it is usually allowed to enable a fighter to collect a deserved payday or participate in a more meaningful contest

again, try to think like a grown-up..... Mr "anyone from 154-168" completely removed HIMSELF from the Cotto sweepstakes when he totally refused to negotiate on weight with the lil old faded 153lb SUPERSTAR, Miguel Cotto

so, when GOLOVKIN REFUSED TO NEGOTIATE WITH COTTO, an adult human being who understands the game can no longer blame Miguel Cotto..... but yea, not sure how you will see it

you have also blamed Canelo for decisions that were made by Golovkin, so I pretty much give you on you guys LOL