Usyk should stay away from the HW division.

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  • BigZ44
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    #31
    Usyk is right where he needs to be. He's one of the best Cruisers in the world, but he isn't head and shoulders above guys like Gassiev, Briedis and Lebedev. Could he go up and beat some top 30 guys at HW? Yeah, probably. But could you imagine him fighting Joshua or Wilder for a title? He'd get splattered

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    • BrometheusBob.
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      #32
      Originally posted by A.K
      cruiser 190 actually.. smh..

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        #33
        Originally posted by TheCell8
        His last two opponents Mchunu and Hunter are hard to look good against. They have way better defense than anyone at HW.

        Most of the HWs, outside of Tyson Fury, are really big stiff idiots. They can't move at all.

        There's also a chance Usyk cuts a lot of weight to make CW, so that could factor into his performances.
        He hasn't got the power to do damage at HW. His pressure style aint going to do ****, he's isn't hard to find and from what i've seen can't fight on the back foot. He'll get bullied and destroyed at HW. His style doesn't suit fighting bigger guys.

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        • A.K
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          #34
          Originally posted by BrometheusBob.
          Call it trollin/brain fuccin but anyone 190 can make cruiser or lhw pick and chose and that's what the Ukrainian is doing.

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          • low blows
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            #35
            Originally posted by Mooshashi
            He has plenty of fights to make at CW even LWH that are less dangerous than moving up to
            the HW division where he would take a lot of punishment.

            Unless he can bulk up (but legally!) like Holyfield he needs to stay below 200.
            Sorry but Holyfield had Lee Haney as a strength and conditioning coach and his alter ego Evan Fields received HGH in the mail for his "father". It's not likely Evander was ever clean above 190 pounds.
            Last edited by low blows; 01-28-2018, 02:55 AM.

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            • HI-TECH Boxing
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              #36
              I understand people's concerns, but which one is it?
              People complain when he says that he wants to unify and beat everyone else at Cruiserweight. They say he's scared to fight at Heavyweight.
              And when he says he wants to fight at Heavyweight people say he shouldn't even think about it because he would get killed.

              It seems like he can't win no matter what in most people's eyes.

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                #37
                Originally posted by LOLffler
                He hasn't got the power to do damage at HW. His pressure style aint going to do ****, he's isn't hard to find and from what i've seen can't fight on the back foot. He'll get bullied and destroyed at HW. His style doesn't suit fighting bigger guys.
                You have to consider that the weight cut to CW might be something that's slowing him down.

                I do agree, his last few fights he's looked tired by the 10th round. Even against Glowacki. Maybe that's just bad conditioning but maybe it's also the weight cuts. He's a huge CW.

                He's basically a HW fighting as a CW. He may be better at HW, if he ever decides to move. But we'll see.

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                • A.K
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by HI-TECH Boxing
                  I understand people's concerns, but which one is it?
                  People complain when he says that he wants to unify and beat everyone else at Cruiserweight. They say he's scared to fight at Heavyweight.
                  And when he says he wants to fight at Heavyweight people say he shouldn't even think about it because he would get killed.

                  It seems like he can't win no matter what in most people's eyes.
                  Most people here dksab really few logical posters

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                  • BrometheusBob.
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by HI-TECH Boxing
                    I understand people's concerns, but which one is it?
                    People complain when he says that he wants to unify and beat everyone else at Cruiserweight. They say he's scared to fight at Heavyweight.
                    And when he says he wants to fight at Heavyweight people say he shouldn't even think about it because he would get killed.

                    It seems like he can't win no matter what in most people's eyes.
                    There's plenty for him to do at cruiserweight for some time I think

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                    • Redd Foxx
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by HI-TECH Boxing
                      I understand people's concerns, but which one is it?
                      People complain when he says that he wants to unify and beat everyone else at Cruiserweight. They say he's scared to fight at Heavyweight.
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                      I've literally never seen a single person say that. All I've seen is people talking about the exciting fights at cruiser for him.

                      Personally, I think would be a huge shame for him to leave cruiser this early. More good fights await.
                      If he goes to HW, I'll wish him the best but will be watching through my fingers. He's the kind of guy that would really benefit from a 220/225lb division.

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