There are Physical limits and Mental limits in boxing.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

This goes against common boxing wisdom, which is that the thinker will always have the higher mental ceiling. To say that a cerebral, technical fighter can't go anywhere, can't figure out anything new, shows a lack of boxing knowledge on your part.

Your argument would have had some legitimacy if you were strictly speaking of physical limits, but then we say Kovalev fatigue so your argument dies again.

I mean, putting boxing aside, wouldn't this be common sense? Lol

Apparently not in here.

[icha]

I would say Ward can't do any better than the first fight against Ward because of physical limits in boxing and the mental limits to what he could do in the center of the ring with a man stronger than him, that could match his speed, that could match his ring I.Q and outgunned in every possible way in power.

There are limits to Andre Ward, and in my opinion we saw his absolute ceiling against Kovalev in the first round and he fell short in the majority of the boxing world and the casual world.

I would say that Andre Ward "Adjusting" in the second fight would not happen. There are limits to what you can do. And It wasn't even a in shape Sergey, it was an out of Shape Kovalev.

Kovalev by 7-5, 8-4, or Late TKO.

if ward can fight like he did in the second half of the fight he will get the W again... limits or not thats all he needs...
and i think he already figured out, this fight is going to start after round 12 imo... and by the way i had kova winning the first fight by 1 point and i really have no dog in this fight...

[Redd Foxx]

I mean, putting boxing aside, wouldn't this be common sense? Lol

Apparently not in here.

*sigh*... I'm not going to act like I'm immune (I'm truly a bit of an idiot) but sometimes I look at the things I type here and I'm like, "They already know that. Don't talk to people like they're children."
But, as you said....

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

*sigh*... I'm not going to act like I'm immune (I'm truly a bit of an idiot) but sometimes I look at the things I type here and I'm like, "They already know that. Don't talk to people like they're children."
But, as you said....

Im a little thrown off by your post but I wasn't talking about you. Just in case I need to clarify that. Lol

[Redd Foxx]

Im a little thrown off by your post but I wasn't talking about you. Just in case I need to clarify that. Lol

No, no. I'm agreeing. Just doing it in a self-deprecating way because I don't want to come off as a someone who thinks he's superior. Hell, I picked Broner to dismantle Maidana so I'm in no place to criticize anyone.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

No, no. I'm agreeing. Just doing it in a self-deprecating way because I don't want to come off as a someone who thinks he's superior. Hell, I picked Broner to dismantle Maidana so I'm in no place to criticize anyone.

Ah gotcha. Well, going by the standards here, YDSAB.

[Thraxox]

This goes against common boxing wisdom, which is that the thinker will always have the higher mental ceiling. To say that a cerebral, technical fighter can't go anywhere, can't figure out anything new, shows a lack of boxing knowledge on your part.

Your argument would have had some legitimacy if you were strictly speaking of physical limits, but then we say Kovalev fatigue so your argument dies again.

I would say Ward was at his best at 168 in the super 6, showing superiority yet also showing vulenerability. Ward did things better technically than Kovalev, did better mentaly than Kovalev, yet Kovalev has the longer reach, has the stronger power, has the stronger jab, and was the two handed fighter between the two, but yet didn't have the Mental capacity Ward has to think around problems.

Ward had smarted his way to avoid the right hand which took him 5 rounds to do sos in the first fight, but he wasn't able to think his way to slip Kova's jab, which is why I think Ward had reached his mental ceiling and physical ceiling.

For me it is more of what Kovalev will do the different, rather than Ward.

[Chuckguy]

I would say Ward can't do any better than the first fight against Ward because of physical limits in boxing and the mental limits to what he could do in the center of the ring with a man stronger than him, that could match his speed, that could match his ring I.Q and outgunned in every possible way in power.

There are limits to Andre Ward, and in my opinion we saw his absolute ceiling against Kovalev in the first round and he fell short in the majority of the boxing world and the casual world.

I would say that Andre Ward "Adjusting" in the second fight would not happen. There are limits to what you can do. And It wasn't even a in shape Sergey, it was an out of Shape Kovalev.

Kovalev by 7-5, 8-4, or Late TKO.

You are right Ward can't do any better against Ward