Comments Thread For: Andre Ward to Kovalev: This Time, Leave the Excuses at Home

[peplz]

Who cares? People have Ward beating Kovalev clearly, is that true? Did Floyd beat Castillo in the first fight? Come on man

The only people that have said that someone was the clear victor in the Kovalev Ward fight are the people who are obsessed with the Castillo Mayweather fight and people who have some twisted hatred towards Andre Ward. For some reason in the eyes of delusional Kovalev fans\Andre Ward haters it wasn't even a close fight and Kovalev dominated. Its just pure bias not true analysis.

[daggum]

The only people that have said that someone was the clear victor in the Kovalev Ward fight are the people who are obsessed with the Castillo Mayweather fight and people who have some twisted hatred towards Andre Ward. For some reason in the eyes of delusional Kovalev fans\Andre Ward haters it wasn't even a close fight and Kovalev dominated. Its just pure bias not true analysis.

calling everything even is the definition of not analyzing. if you analyze it you would see kov won it easy. landed far more, landed cleaner heavier punches. forced ward to clinch and bend over nonstop to keep up. what is the case for ward? yes scoring a fight live can be different than watching it again so if you misscored it watching it live because you were emotionally attached, influenced, or on drugs i could understand but there are no excuses now. the video is out there and if you have your eyesight intact it was a clear win.

[bigjer88]

That's why ward clearly lost the 10th and 12th rounds

Just re-watched the 12th with no sound. I thought Ward was basically able to do his thing in that round - be cautious, nullify aggression with unpredictable movement, grab, hit in the clinch, and hit on the break. Boring-ass ****, but Kovalev looked like he was chasing and a bit frustrated. I thought the action in that round was pretty much on Ward's terms, though I can understand why some people gave it to Kovalev.

In any case, I'm amending my previous response to say that "clearly" was a huge overstatement, especially with respect to the 12th.

[A.K]

Just re-watched the 12th with no sound. I thought Ward was basically able to do his thing in that round - be cautious, nullify aggression with unpredictable movement, grab, hit in the clinch, and hit on the break. Boring-ass ****, but Kovalev looked like he was chasing and a bit frustrated. I thought the action in that round was pretty much on Ward's terms, though I can understand why some people gave it to Kovalev.

In any case, I'm amending my previous response to say that "clearly" was a huge overstatement, especially with respect to the 12th.

What's with this no sound ****? Like it somehow clears the ocean and you see things you couldn't see with the sound kov landed the harder shots and dominated the majority of the round ward landed something in the end but that wasn't enough to steal it.

[peplz]

calling everything even is the definition of not analyzing. if you analyze it you would see kov won it easy. landed far more, landed cleaner heavier punches. forced ward to clinch and bend over nonstop to keep up. what is the case for ward? yes scoring a fight live can be different than watching it again so if you misscored it watching it live because you were emotionally attached, influenced, or on drugs i could understand but there are no excuses now. the video is out there and if you have your eyesight intact it was a clear win.

You are a perfect example of the kind of delusional and biased person I'm talking about. 100% emotion and bias with zero honest analysis. Since when is forcing someone to bend over a thing that is recognized in scoring a fight? Isn't it actually a foul and against the rules to push the opponents head down forcing them to "bend over"? And I suppose that when Kovalev was doing all the clinching and head locks he did it wasn't cause Ward forced him to. It must have just been smart strategy for Kovalev. The emotional bias is so obvious that y'all can't even see it.
Kovalev landed 10 more total punches than Ward but in the delusional biased mind of a Ward hater that equals to him landing "far more". On top of that Ward out landed Kovalev in more than half of the individual rounds. It was a very even fight and one guy was fortunate enough to get the decision. It happens. Thats what rematches are for. And the rematch is happening also.

[aboutfkntime]

Or maybe he was enjoying his victory and xmas holidays and letting guys like yourself get worked up about the result. It was pretty obvious the rematch was going to happen. I really don't get how guys like yourself get all worked up about boxers. The hate you guys have is unreal.

co-sign

the " delay "..... involved Roc Nation taking a lead in the event

these kids are wakk !

[aboutfkntime]

Because he's going to get brutally knocked out. I promise you, you are going to cry June 27th.

You were so relieved/happy that Kovalev didn't KO Ward last time....

He knows better now, obviously you cant outbox the American in Las Vegas, Kovalev is going to brutalize Ward and I can't wait for the tears

2-0 Kovalev after June 27th

good luck with that

I would offer you a sig bet, but I am saving that space for a more appropriate victim

[daggum]

You are a perfect example of the kind of delusional and biased person I'm talking about. 100% emotion and bias with zero honest analysis. Since when is forcing someone to bend over a thing that is recognized in scoring a fight? Isn't it actually a foul and against the rules to push the opponents head down forcing them to "bend over"? And I suppose that when Kovalev was doing all the clinching and head locks he did it wasn't cause Ward forced him to. It must have just been smart strategy for Kovalev. The emotional bias is so obvious that y'all can't even see it.
Kovalev landed 10 more total punches than Ward but in the delusional biased mind of a Ward hater that equals to him landing "far more". On top of that Ward out landed Kovalev in more than half of the individual rounds. It was a very even fight and one guy was fortunate enough to get the decision. It happens. Thats what rematches are for. And the rematch is happening also.

ward was bending below the waist to avoid kovs punches. that is illegal. if you throw punchs and the guy bends below the waist and you end up on top of him its your fault? im the biased one and you cant even understand this?

ward initiated almost all the clinches so yes most of the time kov was responding to illegal tactics with some of his own. did you expect him to stand there while ward held and hit him. the ref did nothing so he had to. im the biased one and you cant see ward initiating the clinches and barreling into kov just to clamp him?

compubox is not accurate. i said when you closely analyze the fight. i dont consider a guy sitting ringside pushing a button closely analyzing the fight. i have far more tools and far more time than them. im the biased one for having more accurate numbers than you?

no he didnt. if you follow compbux then it was 6-6 in rounds so kov won according to your own flawed logic and numbers.

all 3 judges giving a dominant round to the wrong guy late in a close fight happens? yes i know it does and thats why it was a bad decision.

[ShoulderRoll]

Who cares? People have Ward beating Kovalev clearly, is that true? Did Floyd beat Castillo in the first fight? Come on man

What do you mean who cares? If major networks are saying Jacobs won then it's quite reasonable and appropriate to say that Golovkin went life and death with him.

Which is the statement you were criticizing in the first place.

[peplz]

ward was bending below the waist to avoid kovs punches. that is illegal. if you throw punchs and the guy bends below the waist and you end up on top of him its your fault? im the biased one and you cant even understand this?

ward initiated almost all the clinches so yes most of the time kov was responding to illegal tactics with some of his own. did you expect him to stand there while ward held and hit him. the ref did nothing so he had to. im the biased one and you cant see ward initiating the clinches and barreling into kov just to clamp him?

compubox is not accurate. i said when you closely analyze the fight. i dont consider a guy sitting ringside pushing a button closely analyzing the fight. i have far more tools and far more time than them. im the biased one for having more accurate numbers than you?

no he didnt. if you follow compbux then it was 6-6 in rounds so kov won according to your own flawed logic and numbers.

all 3 judges giving a dominant round to the wrong guy late in a close fight happens? yes i know it does and thats why it was a bad decision.

The old "compubox is wrong" argument. Quite convenient... The even older and more tired "he cheated cause he ducked too low when he made the other guy miss" argument. Typical... The completely false "he had to push his head down" argument that only applies to your favored fighter and the biased position that its okay for one guy to employ illegal tactics but not okay for the other to only serve to prove my point. You watched the fight through Kovalev colored lenses everytime you watched it. And the fact that you think you have more accurate numbers is bold faced bias. Case closed.