Comments Thread For: Mikey Garcia Feels Golovkin Made Mistake By Going To PPV

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  • filup79
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    #31
    Originally posted by Briandl
    This is simple, GGG is an HBO fighter and HBO isnt spending money on WCB, so he had no other choice.

    Unless you want him to fight for peanuts on HBO.
    He makes pretty much the same amount of money fighting on HBO. I doubt that he gets any more money from PPV when the buys aren't there. K2 needs to at least break even, especially when it looks like the fight only brought in around 10 mil in revenue after HBO and cables providers take there cut

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      #32
      Originally posted by OnePunch
      sure. Mikey sings that song NOW, but when one of his future opponents demands north of $2 million and Mikey's choices are "take a pay cut" or "take it to PPV", I suspect he will be singing a different tune.
      Mikey doesn't fight on HBO so he won't have a problem if that's the case. I don't see any future opponents asking for 2+ mil to fight Mikey right now. Loma doesn't make a mil per fight and Crawford is making a lil over 1 mil. It would be Mikey's opponents best interest to fight him where it maximizes their earnings like Showtime or PBC

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        #33
        oh yeah cause mikey garcia is such a massive draw himself who the **** is he to be handing out advice.

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          #34
          Originally posted by PK3434
          I enjoy and respect Mikey as a fighter but he wasted almost 3 years of his prime because he thinks he's smarter than he is. He should stay away from commenting on the business side of things for other fighters. If he had any common sense, he would understand that the only reason both of Golovkin's fights were on ppv was because HBO doesn't have the budget to afford the purses that his (respectable) opponents want in order to get in the ring with GGG.
          These were not events specifically designed to be ppvs.
          Wasted 3 years of his life? He actually got 3 years of his life back....and it had more to do with principal than pride.

          I think your missing the point...i don't blame team ggg for going that route....but it could hurt him in Canelo negotiations....solid opinion that he is entitled to, I think a damn near lifetimes investment to the sport entitles him to such.

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            #35
            Originally posted by bigdramashow
            oh yeah cause mikey garcia is such a massive draw himself who the **** is he to be handing out advice.
            Says the man on a message board who calls himself bigdramashow ...no disrespect, just a funny observation.

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              #36
              Lil g needs to skipped the unknown Saunders and

              1. CANELO 160LB

              2. WARD 168LBS

              3. JACOBS rematch would double in viewership based on the closeness of first fight.

              These are fights that could made that could make him a household name!

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                #37
                Originally posted by pvj
                Wasted 3 years of his life? He actually got 3 years of his life back....and it had more to do with principal than pride.

                I think your missing the point...i don't blame team ggg for going that route....but it could hurt him in Canelo negotiations....solid opinion that he is entitled to, I think a damn near lifetimes investment to the sport entitles him to such.
                Golovkin is a strong but clear B side in Canelo negotiations regardless of anything. I really don't think his modest ppv numbers matter. If he never fought on ppv, that would be used against him too. He is doing fine. There are dozens of other fighters who could be called out about how their careers are being managed. Golovkin isn't one of them.

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                • filup79
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by bigdunny1
                  Of course Mikey is right. The Jacobs fight being on PPV and it not doing well has hurt GGG stock and bargaining power at the negotiation table with canelo. GGG camp should of taken less money to keep it on regular HBO or let the fight go to haymon. Haymon would of figured out how to come up with money or showtime would of paid for it keeping it off PPV. And if you insisted on it being on PPV only made sense to take the offer from canelo fight BEFORE the Jacobs numbers came out. LMAO

                  The truth is whatever you thought GGG worth was 2 weeks ago it's less today because this PPV. Oscar all but admitted that his old offer is off the table and that he will give GGG a new offer reflecting the market change. When canelo/chavez does huge numbers GGG offer probably drops more.
                  Showtime/CBS would have afforded to pay the purses that GGG/Jacobs got. They just paid Thurman/Garcia 2 mil each to fight on regular tv. HBO is killing a lot of fights with them not willing to pay for good fights. The only competitive fights HBO puts on is fighters who aren't demanding big purses like Salido,Vargas,Muira and Berchelt. Their big stars only fight on regular HBO when its a mismatch.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by WesternChamp
                    would mikey be saying the same thing if he was a ppv star??

                    In the last 10 years, there have only been 2 PPV stars, Manny and Floyd. There are no more PPV stars anymore no matter how much any promoter is trying to push them to the public.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by j0zef
                      I don't know if it's a mistake or not - when you start appearing on PPV, you develop a reputation and a certain glamour. On top of that, free TV/HBO fighters will never make as much as PPV fighters, even for low budget PPVs. Even Crawford's 70k PPV event generated him the highest purse to date.

                      However as a long term trend, Mikey may be right. PPV model is dying. Or at the very least, requiring to have HBO/Showtime in order to get the event is definitely a dying practice due to so many cord cutters. Networks need to make PPV events both cheaper and easier accessible online. If the price of the PPV was ~$20-40, all in HD, and you could easily stream it off HBOPPV.com or something, they would see the number of buys increase significantly.
                      Actually Crawford made more money fighting Molina on regular HBO than that PPV against Postol. The sad thing is that Crawford/Postol was on PPV and their combine purse was 1.975 mil. HBO didn't want to put on a quality fight but has no problem paying GGG 2 mil to fight the Wade's,Monroe and Rubio's.

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