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  • chrisJS
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    #51
    Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop
    HBO labeled Ward vs Kovalev "Pound For Pound" fight. Kellerman thought Ward won or else he would've bluntly stated that Kova''s face in the interview post ring that Ward lost... Hence, "Pound For Pound"
    He also admitted that he watched it again and had Kovalev winning just like the majority of people. The objective people. Kellerman has his favorites too and it's clear Ward is right near the top of that list.

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    • chrisJS
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      #52
      I think the two best fighters are Crawford and Lomachenko. Best recent form and best overall talent level.
      Kovalev I'd say is a hair above GGG and rounding off my top 5 would be Chocolatito who I believe is a little bit past his ceiling than the others.

      That's the top 5 after that it's difficult to put Garcia, Pacquaio, Ward in an order as they are all at different stages. Mikey has more upside, but less form and resume.

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      • Lester Tutor
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        #53
        Originally posted by chrisJS
        He also admitted that he watched it again and had Kovalev winning just like the majority of people. The objective people. Kellerman has his favorites too and it's clear Ward is right near the top of that list.
        That's why Kellerman said Pac needed the benefit of the doubt because he was denied Toradol, "a clerical error" a week after as Max stated is why Pac was treated unjust? Cmon man. Max is schooled in HBO revisions you don't find it funny?

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        • Mammoth
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          #54
          I hate Andre Ward and Gennady Golovkin.

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          • Mexican_Puppet
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            #55
            Originally posted by boxingitis
            To me Chocolatito never lost compare to Broner. If we go based on division Champions Manny will always be pound for pound as long as he is active. GGG has never won a title in two divsion. Lomachenko has never unified. Mikey has never unify either.
            But GGG destroyed completely one division, Gonzalez never did it. GGG has never won a title in two division because the next division is 8 pounds up.

            Broner moved up 17 pounds to be 4 division champ.

            Gonzalez only 10, imagine Gonzalez fighting vs super bantamweight champions?

            He will massacred like Broner.

            That argument of be multichamp is very bad, at least you unified one or two divisions.

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            • Ind Ividual
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              #56
              Kovalev has no business in the top 5. He ducked Stevenson to fight a smaller Ward and lost.

              Stevenson would K.O. him easely, and Beterbiev would school him too.

              And I don't even think Stevenson is a pvp either, but at least he's got the power to consider it.

              To me the top 5 biggest threats in boxing are:

              #1 Pacquiao.
              #2 Lomachenko
              #3 Golovkin
              #4 Crawford
              #5 Ward

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              • Hatesrats
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                #57
                1. Andre "S.O.G." Ward
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                Then everybody else.

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                • boxingitis
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
                  But GGG destroyed completely one division, Gonzalez never did it. GGG has never won a title in two division because the next division is 8 pounds up.

                  Broner moved up 17 pounds to be 4 division champ.

                  Gonzalez only 10, imagine Gonzalez fighting vs super bantamweight champions?

                  He will massacred like Broner.

                  That argument of be multichamp is very bad, at least you unified one or two divisions.
                  Use ur common sense, the lower weight classes have smaller weight gaps than higher weight classes. To them a couple of pounds makes a differene. It's like that for a reason, not the other way around.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Pigeons
                    No because you have to also consider how close the boxer is to their prime. Simply judging skills is a foolish chore because guys rarely fight the best in boxing, I'm not going to reward them with a spot on the pound for pound list until they prove it vs. the best.

                    so, completely remove GGG from your list, and rank Pac #1

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                    • Mexican_Puppet
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by boxingitis
                      Use ur common sense, the lower weight classes have smaller weight gaps than higher weight classes. To them a couple of pounds makes a differene. It's like that for a reason, not the other way around.
                      This is simple, use your common sense: in lower weights it's easiest be multichamp.

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