can anyone tell me where GGG was in Sergio Martinez was the man at 160?

[boliodogs]

Martinez has the highest praise for GGG. He said about a year ago that GGG was by far the best middleweight in the world. GGG never ducked Martinez. He tried to fight him but Martinez said no thanks claiming GGG was not a big enough name. Then he fought guys with less of a name than GGG. GGG would have knocked Martinez out if they fought at any time. At different times Martinez lost to Paul Williams, was KOed by Margarito and fought to a draw with Citron. GGG would easily KO all three of those guys. Thanks for starting another pointless GGG hate thread. There weren't enough GGG hate threads on here.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Sheep like behavior who cares what some twitter nerd said LOL after the macklin fight ggg called out Martinez and Martinez wanted no parts this is facts.

Nathan Lewkowicz is a twitter nerd? He's VP of Sampson boxing prmotions, Martinez's Argentinian promoter. So Loeffler said Martinez never turned down a GGG fight. Martinez promoter said it was in Martinez contract to fight GGG if he beat Cotto but I'm supposed to believe a clown like you?

[Larry the boss]

He was fighting in Germany under Universom i think...Martinez wanted no parts of him

[_Maxi]

Martinez has the highest praise for GGG. He said about a year ago that GGG was by far the best middleweight in the world. GGG never ducked Martinez. He tried to fight him but Martinez said no thanks claiming GGG was not a big enough name. Then he fought guys with less of a name than GGG. GGG would have knocked Martinez out if they fought at any time. At different times Martinez lost to Paul Williams, was KOed by Margarito and fought to a draw with Citron. GGG would easily KO all three of those guys. Thanks for starting another pointless GGG hate thread. There weren't enough GGG hate threads on here.

Agree with most things except:

fought to a draw with Citron

Did you see that fight?

[Citizen Koba]

so basically he signed a contract with a crap promotional company?

thing is, seems like the real people in boxing knew who GGG was cause of olympics, amateurs, kovalev knew him.

im not sure thats good enough though, oh promotion problems, he was still fighting seems like, he has 35 fights. and why didnt a good promotional company sign him up? he was known by real boxing money makers and he seems to be making money now. why not 2010 though. who was he with?

Signed with Universum in 2006 - which probably seemed like a good idea at the time (they promoted Euro MW kingpin Sturm and were a significant player). He was matched relatively tough early if you know the names but it turns out hit a glass ceiling around 2009 when Universum wouldn't match him with Sturm or their other name at 160 Zbik. Made it to mando for Sturms WBA title but the WBA instigated a new rule (apparently, but not certainly, purely for the purpose of getting Sturm out of harms way) allowing Sturm to become 'super' champ despite not being a unified champ. Golovkin declares his intention to leave Universum (now failing and also under suspiscion of numerous criminal or at least deeply shady activities) in 2010. Universum responds with litigation and Golovkin is banned from fighting in either Germany or the US. Sought other promoters in the US - TR for sure were approached but Arum refused due to the uncertainties of the ongoing litigation. Finally signed with K2 which is kind of unfortunate since they had basically zero US presence - but them's the breaks I guess. Settled with Universum in mid 2012... which is when he was picked up by HBO. The rest you should know. Maravilla was never really an option due to the timing.

[The Smash]

Martinez was never the man at 160. Getting a gift decision against a drunk Pavlik and a lucky punch against Williams doesn't make a champ. He spent 3 years on the run, doing everything he could to avoid a fight with Chavez.

[Larry the boss]

did he change promotional company then? come on ggg fans, you know whats up, like donnell jones.

yes he did...

[Larry the boss]

Truth be told these GGG fans dont know **** about him and refuse to even do their own research

[moltres.]

Go back to school and learn the english language

idiot, cant stand people who want perfect punctuation when there is no girls about.

youre a fvking ***head understand? you understand what i wrote. bet im smarter than you.

[moltres.]

Signed with Universum in 2006 - which probably seemed like a good idea at the time (they promoted Euro MW kingpin Sturm and were a significant player). He was matched relatively tough early if you know the names but it turns out hit a glass ceiling around 2009 when Universum wouldn't match him with Sturm or their other name at 160 Zbik. Made it to mando for Sturms WBA title but the WBA instigated a new rule (apparently, but not certainly, purely for the purpose of getting Sturm out of harms way) allowing Sturm to become 'super' champ despite not being a unified champ. Golovkin declares his intention to leave Universum (now failing and also under suspiscion of numerous criminal or at least deeply shady activities) in 2010. Universum responds with litigation and Golovkin is banned from fighting in either Germany or the US. Sought other promoters in the US - TR for sure were approached but Arum refused due to the uncertainties of the ongoing litigation. Finally signed with K2 which is kind of unfortunate since they had basically zero US presence - but them's the breaks I guess. Settled with Universum in mid 2012... which is when he was picked up by HBO. The rest you should know. Maravilla was never really an option due to the timing.

thanks for the good information,

that all makes sense. he's got 2 good years now, not everyones hopkins. It could stop him from being higher up on the atg rankings at middleweight.