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  • Diegosome1
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    #51
    Originally posted by Boxing lives
    Mark my words. Charlo will be the end of Golovkin. I've said it since the vicious JRock KO. This guy will beat Golovkin's ass and rip away all of his belts. Golovkin will never get in the ring with this guy.
    How can he beat him if he's never getting in the ring with it? Either he beats him or he's not facing him, what the hell am I marking here

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    • Dean_Razorback
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      #52
      as soon as GGG ends charlo he'll be another smaller fighter, GGG should move up doe....

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      • Boxing lives
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        #53
        Originally posted by Diegosome1
        How can he beat him if he's never getting in the ring with it? Either he beats him or he's not facing him, what the hell am I marking here
        Grovelkin will soon be pulling a Canelo and making excuses to avoid Charlo. Loeffler will never put him in there to get massacred by a complete fighter like Charlo. Charlo is a more aggressive version of Danny Jacobs. Gennad don't want that work.

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        • Motorcity Cobra
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          #54
          Originally posted by kiaba360
          After Heiland (which shouldn't cause him too much issue), he can fight someone like Sulecki/Derev/N'Dam, and then Jacobs. What I don't want to happen is Charlo sitting on the mandatory spot like Heiland has been doing, because I don't see GGG/Charlo happening immediately. When do you think the WBC would enforce GGG to fight his mandatory?
          He's had the belt for almost one year and they haven't enforced the mandatory mainly because Heiland is the mandatory. I think the WBC would call it fairly quickly after Charlo beats Heiland. It'll be past due. He can offer step aside money so the Canelo fight can happen but I doubt that fight even happens. IBF is also past due so if they can't get that fight made he may have to fight Johnson next. Johnson just had a win last Thursday. Personally I think they should make him fight an eliminator with Derevyanchenko because he's been out over a year with an injury and Pena wasn't rated top 15 by the IBF.

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          • lex_fugitive
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            #55
            Charlo-G fight very unlikely to happen. Charlo will beat Heiland rather easily, but when G has Charlo as his mandatory he will finally give in and agree to quit ducking Canelo and finally fight him. Then if Canelo wins, poof!, G could give Jacobs a rematch (or he could keep fighting the Wades of the world) and we could get the real fight people wanna see: Canelo-Charlo for all the titles.

            I don't care for either G or Canelo, they are both prima donna's who's skills don't match their talk. G needs to accept a record payday for himself, even if it means a loss on his record.

            Canelo might be the easier fight for G. And it is definitely more money. Not sure who wins Canelo-G, that is a real toss-up. I favor Charlo over G, but wouldn't be shocked if G won. I would be shocked if G fought him before he agrees to Canelo.

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            • SkillspayBills
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              #56
              Originally posted by BillyBoxing
              I thought GGG had to move up to prove his goodness and should stop stop fighting blown up WW or SWW like Brook and Ouma.

              Now he will be a btch if he moves up...

              You guys won't give him credit if he beats Charlo saying Jermall is a blown up lightmiddle.

              Either way GGG is a fraud and a ducker we got it.

              How about enjoying Sunday and not losing time shtting on a fighter on a board?
              I wonder if this was your tune during the career of Floyd Mayweather. He went their this his entire career lol. It's actually pretty funny to see the shoe on the other foot

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              • kiaba360
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                #57
                Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                He's had the belt for almost one year and they haven't enforced the mandatory mainly because Heiland is the mandatory. I think the WBC would call it fairly quickly after Charlo beats Heiland. It'll be past due. He can offer step aside money so the Canelo fight can happen but I doubt that fight even happens. IBF is also past due so if they can't get that fight made he may have to fight Johnson next. Johnson just had a win last Thursday. Personally I think they should make him fight an eliminator with Derevyanchenko because he's been out over a year with an injury and Pena wasn't rated top 15 by the IBF.
                ...or maybe Johnson/Murata.

                Side note: what happened with Sulecki? Another Brooklyn-based Euro on PBC's roster, but his last fight was almost a year ago. Sulecki is WBC #6 and IBF #11, so he would be a decent filler fight for Jermall after Heiland (assuming WBC doesn't order GGG/Charlo). Jermall/Sulecki could be a co-main to Jacobs/Lee, then the winners fight each other. I know I'm overlooking Heiland, but I just don't see how Charlo loses to him.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Eastcoast
                  Well I guess the WBA/WBC are going back on their plans:
                  WBA, WBC May Establish a Single Mandatory To Unified Champs http://www.boxingscene.com/wba-wbc-e...champs--113194

                  Charlo isn't ready for Golovkin, even after Heiland. But if no Canelo, and Golovkin decides to drop the IBF & WBO, then Charlo's a fun fight. Not as good as Eubank, Rameriz or DeGale, but fun quality nonetheless.
                  Nope! He needs about 4-5 more fights. I really wasn't impressed with his fight against Trout. It looked like neither one wanted to win that fight??? They just kept throwing 1 punch at a time and exchanges punches. He gonna get KO'd if he pulls that BS on GGG.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by kiaba360
                    ...or maybe Johnson/Murata.

                    Side note: what happened with Sulecki? Another Brooklyn-based Euro on PBC's roster, but his last fight was almost a year ago. Sulecki is WBC #6 and IBF #11, so he would be a decent filler fight for Jermall after Heiland (assuming WBC doesn't order GGG/Charlo). Jermall/Sulecki could be a co-main to Jacobs/Lee, then the winners fight each other. I know I'm overlooking Heiland, but I just don't see how Charlo loses to him.
                    Murata if brought up properly has HUGE potential. He's just way too green right now. And I like Sergiy Derevyanchenko a lot as well for up and coming prospects...He BLASTED Sam Soliman out of the waters in 2 rounds. And who was ROBBED by Wade who went on to fight GGG.

                    The only knock is how old they both are??? I think like 31?? So there probably gonna be rushed in and get the fast track???

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                    • richardt
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Boxing lives
                      Grovelkin will soon be pulling a Canelo and making excuses to avoid Charlo. Loeffler will never put him in there to get massacred by a complete fighter like Charlo. Charlo is a more aggressive version of Danny Jacobs. Gennad don't want that work.
                      Do you know how many COUNTLESS times someone on here has said fighter A would never get in the ring with fighter B?? And guess what happens? I would be rich if I bet on fighter A getting in the ring with fighter B. See Thurman as an example, the guy in your avatar. Many people said Thurman was avoiding Porter and questioned his car accident. They said Garcia was frightened of Mathysee. And everyone said Thurman was ducking Spence so did you say that "Thurman dont want that work" too when he avoided Spence making all kinds of excuses not to fight him? On top of that, Charlo isnt even a challenger yet and Spence was and yet you already have Golovkin ducking a guy who isnt even in his division yet. On top of that, comparing Charlo to Jacobs doesnt work because Jacobs is a proven middleweight and Charlo has not even fought a middleweight yet to see what happens when a middleweight chin checks him. And Charlo being more aggressive doesnt mean anything because aggression can work for and against a fighter.
                      Last edited by richardt; 03-26-2017, 03:28 PM.

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