What's with the accusation that GGG fights low level fighters?

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  • animelive
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    What's with the accusation that GGG fights low level fighters?

    Of course he does. There's only a handful of A class boxers and they are spread in different divisions. The only good boxers I can think on top of my head are Roman, ward, Loma, kovalev, Joshua, ggg etc. Who are really balanced on their skills of footwork and technique. The skills required to get to this level takes decade of work and dedication.

    It is impossible to have your CV stacked with the top top quality boxers. The only ones in recent times were Floyd and Pacquiao, because of a skilled ww division which was unprecedented. Some may point to canelo but his biggest fights were cotto and Floyd whom he lost to.

    So ofcourse, most of the fighters these boxers fight are hardly on the top level but that's nothing bad. What is important is that they fight the top fighters in their division. I swear this ridiculous forum would label ATGs like hagler and tyson, can crushers if they fought in this time.

    These armchair warriors never put a glove on their hand or tried any martial art because anyone who was even a little bit involved in fighting sport, know the skills, stamina and mental ability required for a professional match, and ofcourse the pain too. Anyone who even had one round of sparring in their lifetime would respect every single pro fighter they come across.
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    The guy has tried to fight all the best fighters in his division, and beaten all who were willing to face him. The knock on him is the potential fight with ward didn't happen and the canelo fight hasn't happened. Other than those guys, who else is there...if he moves to smw and beats those guys, people will be just as critical as they are about his mw opposition.

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    • DoktorSleepless
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      He has had the option to fight best elite fighter at 154, Lara, and the best elite fighter at 168, Ward. He opted for neither. It's frustrating.

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      • animelive
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        #4
        Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
        He has had the option to fight best elite fighter at 154, Lara, and the best elite fighter at 168, Ward. He opted for neither. It's frustrating.
        Best is subjective. I don't think lara is a top Calibre and defeats many in 160. If he took the fight, he would just be blamed more. Lara would be labelled canelo left over.

        Ward one was tricky. I don't think GGG wins at 168(too small) but probably at 160(ward too drained). But they both declined the fight at certain points.too much risk for less reward in the end on that fight.

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        • jmrf4435
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          There is no merit in anyone claim GGG chooses easy fights. He;s on a mission to unify 160 and has done all in his power to do that. He would smoke any 154 fighter...

          "Flat fee though" why would any champion take such a bogus offer?

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          • Scipio2009
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            #6
            Originally posted by animelive
            Of course he does. There's only a handful of A class boxers and they are spread in different divisions. The only good boxers I can think on top of my head are Roman, ward, Loma, kovalev, Joshua, ggg etc. Who are really balanced on their skills of footwork and technique. The skills required to get to this level takes decade of work and dedication.

            It is impossible to have your CV stacked with the top top quality boxers. The only ones in recent times were Floyd and Pacquiao, because of a skilled ww division which was unprecedented. Some may point to canelo but his biggest fights were cotto and Floyd whom he lost to.

            So ofcourse, most of the fighters these boxers fight are hardly on the top level but that's nothing bad. What is important is that they fight the top fighters in their division. I swear this ridiculous forum would label ATGs like hagler and tyson, can crushers if they fought in this time.

            These armchair warriors never put a glove on their hand or tried any martial art because anyone who was even a little bit involved in fighting sport, know the skills, stamina and mental ability required for a professional match, and ofcourse the pain too. Anyone who even had one round of sparring in their lifetime would respect every single pro fighter they come across.
            Golovkin had the chance to find out and fight fighters whom the boxing audience believed/knew could actually fight, and he and his camp did no such thing.

            Special fighters are definitely spread out, but don't act like there isn't talent; once Saul Alvarez determined it was time for him to actually fight guys worth fighting, he went after Paul Williams, he went after Victor Cruz, he went after Floyd, he went after Erislandy Lara, Cotto, Chavez Jr at 165lbs, etc.

            Things weren't there immediately, but by the time the Geale fight came around, HBO was putting enough money behind Golovkin's fights that he basically had the finances to bring in anyone he wanted.

            Why not bring in Erislandy Lara, or Demetrius Andrade, or Michel Soro, or head up to 168lbs to fight Andre Dirrell, or fight the rugged, durable guys like "Porky" Medina, etc? Whether he simply flattens all of them or not, the fight audience would've seen him in with guys with different styles and known ability.

            Hagler had to wade through whatever soft fights he had to, but he took on basically every hard fight that there possibly was for him, even when the money turned out to not be so great.

            Golovkin simply doesn't have enough hard fights on his ledger

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            • Scipio2009
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              Originally posted by considerthis
              The guy has tried to fight all the best fighters in his division, and beaten all who were willing to face him. The knock on him is the potential fight with ward didn't happen and the canelo fight hasn't happened. Other than those guys, who else is there...if he moves to smw and beats those guys, people will be just as critical as they are about his mw opposition.
              no, they wouldn't; they'd note that a "small middleweight" went up a weight class, fought fighters that at least outweighed him by 15-20lbs on fight night, and seen him handle them. No different than when Anderson Silva (while he was reigning 185lb champion) went up to 205lbs and was blowing out solid guys at the weight.

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              • soul_survivor
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                The same people who knock GGG for that are the ones who Ward is p4p for fighting one world class name i n4 years and for fighting 2 journeymen in that time, one of hwom was a middleweight and had to move up 2 weight divisions lol

                Take from that what you will.

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                • yammy25
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                  #9
                  Stopped reading at Joshua and "footwork"

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                  • Real King Kong
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                    Originally posted by Scipio2009
                    no, they wouldn't; they'd note that a "small middleweight" went up a weight class, fought fighters that at least outweighed him by 15-20lbs on fight night, and seen him handle them. No different than when Anderson Silva (while he was reigning 185lb champion) went up to 205lbs and was blowing out solid guys at the weight.
                    Sorry...i should have said haters would still be critical.

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