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  • Mr. Luthor
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    #11
    Great reading but Breadman please read Loeffler's response to fighting Martinez when asked in March 2012, doesn't sound like Martinez avoiding to me...

    "Tom Loeffler, who helps run the Klitschko brothers' promotional company, told me that K2 wants to do Golovkin-Martinez, but down the line a bit. First, the company would like to whet the U.S. fans' appetites by showcasing Golovkin on HBO. That could happen in November, Loeffler said."

    Michael Woods ESPN article from March 2012

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    • j0zef
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      #12
      Great article as always, and I completely agree with what he's saying, especially in regards to weight, the 'hype' and how Gonzalez is treated now. If I ever meet Breadman in a bar I'll buy him a drink.

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      • DeLorean
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        #13
        GGG fans now wanna put Jacobs on a pound for pound list to justify why he struggled with his first true test.

        "he was 10 lbs heavier, we need to change the rules" give me a break. these are the same people that wanna see GGG vs Floyd. how much of a weight advantage will GGG have? surely more than 10. hypocrites.

        at 35 years old he finally steps up competition and barely won.

        and Canelo won't need height or reach to beat GGG. if you notice Jacobs actually had more success when he stood his ground and let off combos in the pocket (watch the beginning of round ten).

        his trainer kept instructing him to "finesse" or stick and move. shoulda told him to go straight to his chest and let his hands go. GGG had absolutely no response for the handspeed. none. he would just shell up, let Jacobs finish hitting him then reset.

        Canelo has faster hands than Jacobs. better reflexes. way more slicker slipping shots inside. notice GGG's attack was nullified on the ropes with upper body movement. go rewatch Canelo vs Trout and see that boy slicker than oil in the pocket.

        there is no better combination puncher than Canelo. and what was making GGG freeze? combos. what punch was Jacobs landing at will? the uppercut. one of cinnamons best weapons.

        Canelo is a beast agaisnt guys that dare to stand in front of him. GGG is tailor made for him.

        don't believe me just watch.

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        • Jc8804
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          #14
          I dis agree with bread.

          Jacobs didnt win 6 rounds , thats crazy.

          There was only one swing round.
          Jacobs was dominated in 5 of GGGs 7 winning rounds with a hammer jab .

          Bread failed to mention , GGG more than doubled jacobs in jabs , and he hurt jacobs 4 times visibly . Jacobs tried to show off with pride to act as if he wasnt hurt twice.

          Struggling is GGG getting backed up and hurt and being out jabbed which is his thing.


          P.s most still think ward lost and got a gift vs kovalev.
          Last edited by Jc8804; 03-22-2017, 09:56 AM.

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          • IRONCHINHAGLER
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            #15
            Originally posted by DeLorean
            GGG fans now wanna put Jacobs on a pound for pound list to justify why he struggled with his first true test.

            "he was 10 lbs heavier, we need to change the rules" give me a break. these are the same people that wanna see GGG vs Floyd. how much of a weight advantage will GGG have? surely more than 10. hypocrites.

            at 35 years old he finally steps up competition and barely won.

            and Canelo won't need height or reach to beat GGG. if you notice Jacobs actually had more success when he stood his ground and let off combos in the pocket (watch the beginning of round ten).

            his trainer kept instructing him to "finesse" or stick and move. shoulda told him to go straight to his chest and let his hands go. GGG had absolutely no response for the handspeed. none. he would just shell up, let Jacobs finish hitting him then reset.

            Canelo has faster hands than Jacobs. better reflexes. way more slicker slipping shots inside. notice GGG's attack was nullified on the ropes with upper body movement. go rewatch Canelo vs Trout and see that boy slicker than oil in the pocket.

            there is no better combination puncher than Canelo. and what was making GGG freeze? combos. what punch was Jacobs landing at will? the uppercut. one of cinnamons best weapons.

            Canelo is a beast agaisnt guys that dare to stand in front of him. GGG is tailor made for him.

            don't believe me just watch.
            The beast couldn't even floor much less stop a old version of Cotto(dropped and stopped numerous times)..Lol!! If Canelo and his team believed ur bs opinion, the fight would have happened a year and half ago...instead Canelita runs back to 154 and proclaims " I am not a MW yet...I need to build my body up to 160 and see how it responds b4 I fight GGG " classic lame excuse!!

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            • petegrif
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              #16
              Great analysis as always. Respect.

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              • Progrssive_Jedi
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                #17
                For GGG Haters, Brook, size matters. Jacobs, size wasn't nothing

                People said ggg had no movement and couldn't outboxed opponent.

                If Danny chin wasn't suspect the fight wouldn't of been 8-1. It's as simple as that.

                Next I imagine they'll stop Danny from rehydrating 20 pounds or more. And GGG won't be IBF champ, so he can put on some muscle to close the gap.

                Even with every advantage Danny had, weight, speed, and in his own city, he couldn't outbox ggg.

                I watched the fight in slow motion, Danny punches were not even as impactful as Brook.

                GGG will blow out Suanders and Canelo, and in rematch against Jacobs we will seee a much more dominant performance.

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                • Progrssive_Jedi
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by DeLorean
                  GGG fans now wanna put Jacobs on a pound for pound list to justify why he struggled with his first true test.

                  "he was 10 lbs heavier, we need to change the rules" give me a break. these are the same people that wanna see GGG vs Floyd. how much of a weight advantage will GGG have? surely more than 10. hypocrites.

                  at 35 years old he finally steps up competition and barely won.

                  and Canelo won't need height or reach to beat GGG. if you notice Jacobs actually had more success when he stood his ground and let off combos in the pocket (watch the beginning of round ten).

                  his trainer kept instructing him to "finesse" or stick and move. shoulda told him to go straight to his chest and let his hands go. GGG had absolutely no response for the handspeed. none. he would just shell up, let Jacobs finish hitting him then reset.

                  Canelo has faster hands than Jacobs. better reflexes. way more slicker slipping shots inside. notice GGG's attack was nullified on the ropes with upper body movement. go rewatch Canelo vs Trout and see that boy slicker than oil in the pocket.

                  there is no better combination puncher than Canelo. and what was making GGG freeze? combos. what punch was Jacobs landing at will? the uppercut. one of cinnamons best weapons.

                  Canelo is a beast agaisnt guys that dare to stand in front of him. GGG is tailor made for him.

                  don't believe me just watch.
                  I'm going to save this, because after Canelo gets beat up by Golivkin, who won't respect his power, I can't wait to see you write, "GGG was too big, too strong. Let him fight a bigger guy..."

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                  • zoken
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                    #19
                    Jacobs had to fight the perfect fight which he did. He left everything in the ring that night. I don't think he can repeat that performance in a rematch.

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                    • fightfanjoe
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Jc8804
                      I dis agree with bread.

                      Jacobs didnt win 6 rounds , thats crazy.

                      There was only one swing round.
                      Jacobs was dominated in 5 of GGGs 7 winning rounds with a hammer jab .

                      Bread failed to mention , GGG more than doubled jacobs in jabs , and he hurt jacobs 4 times visibly . Jacobs tried to show off with pride to act as if he wasnt hurt twice.

                      Struggling is GGG getting backed up and hurt and being out jabbed which is his thing.


                      P.s most still think ward lost and got a gift vs kovalev.
                      Dude, GGG didn't dominate ANY rounds. Not even the round he got the knockdown in. Also jacobs won at least 5-6 rounds (and actually it was 7 rounds). Finally, the Ward - Kovalev fight was extremely close, but it was no gift or robbery. You don't know what you're talking about.

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