"Straight up and down, no special effects"

[DeLorean]

Maidana is way more basic than GGG. and Floyd needed a rematch to clear that up.

[fvanesbeck]

He's right. You take away his power with just basic boxing skills and he's weak as hell. Horrible defense no head movement nothing special. Please over rate him because power and facing bums. Better class of fighters will light him up and school him.

"You take away [insert boxer's best attribute here] and [insert boxers name here] wouldn't be as good."

Insightful.

The Pacquiao that fought Margarito would beat GGG at junior middleweight

This statement speaks volumes about fans' overreaction to what goes on in the ring. Anything less than a dominant knockout performance for Golovkin and he's been "exposed" and "fighting bums his whole career", etc, etc.

The Pacquiao that beat Margarito was hurt by Margarito in that fight. A middleweight who's not dissimilar to Margarito stylistically but better in almost every category (including being bigger, hitting harder and being a better finisher) would stop that version of Manny in the first 3 or 4 rounds.

[Motorcity Cobra]

"You take away [insert boxer's best attribute here] and [insert boxers name here] wouldn't be as good."

Insightful.



This statement speaks volumes about fans' overreaction to what goes on in the ring. Anything less than a dominant knockout performance for Golovkin and he's been "exposed" and "fighting bums his whole career", etc, etc.

The Pacquiao that beat Margarito was hurt by Margarito in that fight. A middleweight who's not dissimilar to Margarito stylistically but better in almost every category (including being bigger, hitting harder and being a better finisher) would stop that version of Manny in the first 3 or 4 rounds.

Fans aren't questioning him because it wasn't a dominant KO performance. Fans are questioning his greatness because this was his first real test at MW and he didn't pass with flying colors.

You have to look at it from our perspective. We've been told this guy may be one of the best middleweights of all time. Some of us haven't been impressed and said hold up on that talk until he fights a live body. He's 34 years old and just had his first fight against a real middlweight with skills. No one was saying Jacobs was anything special. A B/B+ fighter. GGG squeaked past him to get a close win. When GGG finally fought decent opposition he looked decent himself. GGG is a decent Middleweight fighter, good for his era, but not an ATG that has been pushed down our throats for years. And if we dared to disagree we got called haters. It's time to stop that ATG talk.

Floyd is an ATG. Manny is an ATG. We've lived thru the era of two ATG's. We know what ATG's look like and we didn't see it in GGG. Bottom line.

[Sun_Tzu]

Oh this is glorious. I had high hopes when it went to a decision but I couldn't have imagined the level of raw ass Ive seen here today. I would like to personally thank you all.

[Larry the boss]

Almost ko'd him?? What the ****? He hit him in the back of the head and pulled him forward

[Motorcity Cobra]

Almost ko'd him?? What the ****? He hit him in the back of the head and pulled him forward

The back of the head punch came when GGG clinched from the first punch that wobbled him. What are you watching? He gets hit, clinches, and his legs buckle. You can see them when the ref pushes them apart.

[Larry the boss]

Maidana is way more basic than GGG. and Floyd needed a rematch to clear that up.

Floyd was also 37 in his 4th weight class man

[fvanesbeck]

Fans aren't questioning him because it wasn't a dominant KO performance. Fans are questioning his greatness because this was his first real test at MW and he didn't pass with flying colors.

You have to look at it from our perspective. We've been told this guy may be one of the best middleweights of all time. Some of us haven't been impressed and said hold up on that talk until he fights a live body. He's 34 years old and just had his first fight against a real middlweight with skills. No one was saying Jacobs was anything special. A B/B+ fighter. GGG squeaked past him to get a close win. When GGG finally fought decent opposition he looked decent himself. GGG is a decent Middleweight fighter, good for his era, but not an ATG that has been pushed down our throats for years. And if we dared to disagree we got called haters. It's time to stop that ATG talk.

Floyd is an ATG. Manny is an ATG. We've lived thru the era of two ATG's. We know what ATG's look like and we didn't see it in GGG. Bottom line.

For the record, I don't think he's an ATG but Floyd and Manny both had nights where they didn't pass with flying colours. ATG status is something that can only really be given at the end of someone's career because there is still a lot of room for that perspective to change (for example, if he destroys Canelo within a couple of rounds and then notches up a few more big wins before retiring). People saying it about GGG now are either fanboys or promotors using it as a marketing tool.

And Jacobs wasn't the first fight against a real MW with skills, but he was definitely his toughest fight on paper going into the fight. No shame in winning a close decision against him.

[Larry the boss]

The Pacquiao that fought Margarito would beat GGG at junior middleweight

you mean 150?

[Motorcity Cobra]

you mean 150?

Yes, 150 is junior middleweight.