Does Floyd have a better win than a prime Sergey Kovalev?

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  • mick1303
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    #21
    Originally posted by Fists_of_Fury
    Corrales, Hatton, and Canelo were all prime and undefeated. Floyd knocked out 2 of them and schooled the last one. KOvalev beat Ward imo.

    NSB use to be littered with Hatton fans. It was the typical Floyd is scared, Floyd would get knocked out, Hatton has the perfect style to win, etc... Floyd won and they diminished the win. A TKO victory from a supposed feather fisted fighter over a supposed iron chinned fighter. Nobody thought Floyd would win by stoppage. It wasn't a gifted sd.
    Yes, this is a very good example. I remember this bunch of Hatton fans (I was on ESPN mb back then). They just knew for a fact that Floyd will be destroyed. Absolutely no doubt in their minds.

    I remember countering - but what if Floyd will not be physically weaker like they insisted and mauling would not work...

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    • DeLorean
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      #22
      Ward beating Kovalev is great because of the aura around Sergey. the boogeyman, the most feared, power in both hands, people were actually concerned for Ward's life.. **** even Floyd advised him to stay away, that HBO was setting up Ward for the kill as payback for him punking Golovkin.

      that's what made it special. he took on a killer in prime form and beat him.

      the closest Floyd comes to that is Corrales. but skillwise Kovalev ****s on Corrales.

      Canelo was young and prime but he wasn't no killer. and that 152 catchweight is an asterisk.

      Castillo wasn't no feared killer.

      the DLH win is probably Floyd's overall best if you consider the circumstances. he was the B side and Oscar stacked everything in his favor just to lose.

      Hatton wasn't no killer either.

      Pacquiao six years too late and fight was much closer than people say.

      Judah was also prime. but again he wasn't no killer. same goes for Cotto, Gatti, Ortiz, Baldomir etc.

      killer just means fearsome puncher with boogeyman aura that is being avoided.

      Floyd had a chance to face a killer.. Paul Williams. never happened.

      so I had to vote yes. Ward jumping to the boogeyman division and beating a guy that's giving people nightmares who is in his prime is more impressive than anything on Floyd's CV.

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      • W1LL
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        #23
        Originally posted by DeLorean
        so I had to vote yes. Ward jumping to the boogeyman division and beating a guy that's giving people nightmares who is in his prime is more impressive than anything on Floyd's CV.
        Voting yes means you voted that Floyd has a better win on his record...

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        • -Kev-
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          #24
          At the end, Pacquiao is an ATG, he's a HOF'er. Will Kovalev go in the HOF?

          What about the fact that Floyd was outweighed by his opponents?

          Floyd 136 1/2
          Corrales 146

          Floyd 138 1/2
          Castillo 147 1/2

          When Floyd was at 130-135 he was beating welterweights on fight night while weighing in as heavy as a Lightweight at best.

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          • icha
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            #25
            Past prime oscar was a better fighter than both ward and kova imo...

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            • -Kev-
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              #26
              Originally posted by Scholar
              Voting yes means you voted that Floyd has a better win on his record...
              DeLorean's the type of guy to vote for Hillary Clinton thinking he's voting in favor of Trump.

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              • W1LL
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                #27
                Originally posted by -Kev-
                DeLorean's the type of guy to vote for Hillary Clinton thinking he's voting in favor of Trump.
                Haha!

                If Floyd had faught Manny five years earlier would have been a better win. Not so sure about a 2015 Manny.

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                • lopetego
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                  #28
                  even Berto is a better W for Floyd than Kovalev is for Ward

                  why? because Floyd actually won

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                  • Johnwoo8686
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                    #29
                    Yes, pound for pound Canelo, Pacquiao, and Oscar De La Hoya are all more skilled and more accomplished than Kovalev. Before you say Pacquiao and Oscar were passed their prime ask yourself "Is Kovalev at 33 years old still prime?"

                    I would say Kovalev is slightly passed his prime, he seems to be fading in the later rounds in every fight he is in which is a sign that a fighter may be slowing down. He's still a good fighter but his resume is lacking when you compare it to the fighters whom Mayweather beat.

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