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How GGG Transcended Boxing To Become A Global Marketing Star.

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  • #51
    Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
    NO!!! it just means there trolls who create a ton of alt and flood these boards to talk about GGG and that instigates others to come back and clown them. People need to realize that shyt that goes on in boxingscene don't translate to the real world. The boards were non stop flooded heading into GGG/Lemieux and same idiots like you said wow look how popular he is on these boards that means he's going to do 500-600k PPV Buys. That's what fools were actually saying. Then it bombs does only 150k. Canelo/Cotto same amount of traffic on boxingscene but it does 900K PPV buys. Because REAL people care about Canelo and Cotto and couldn't care less about GGG. He is only know in this little bubble of die hard boxing fans. And post like this only create messageboard wars that the avg joe never sees or cares about and does NOTHING for GGG big picture.

    You idiots think if you talk about GGG more then Floyd, Manny, Canelo, Cotto on a phuking messageboard that means he's in the same class as them. He's not.
    I agree bro. Numbers dont lie.

    My point is that GGG is marketable but doesn't have his own people supporting him in the US. He is more marketable than Cotto and Canelo based on fighting style and personality but his ethnicity makes it impossible to compete with them in the US market. Take away Mexican and PR fans and Canelo and Cotto arent that big..

    Im a fan of all 3 so not even taking sides here. Just making a point!!

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    • #52
      Sold out they say...

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      • #53
        Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
        When you start your article with a bold face lie it's hard to take anything else serious

        "When he fights Danny Jacobs on HBO PPV on Saturday (9 p.m. ET/6 p.m. PT), Golovkin will be basking in the adulation of 20,000-plus fans in a sold-out Madison Square Garden"

        Not a sell out you can buy 8 tickets in a row in any section you want and it's the day before the fight.

        http://www1.ticketmaster.com/world-c...005193E09E27FB


        If his name was spoken on national television 99% of the population would be scratching their heads here asking, who is that?

        He hasn't been marketed at all outside of boxing enough.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Vape View Post
          If his name was spoken on national television 99% of the population would be scratching their heads here asking, who is that?

          He hasn't been marketed at all outside of boxing enough.
          Actually after Floyd and PAC ggg is the most known fighter according to google trends and casuals.

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          • #55
            In time Golovkin will marketable but I wouldn't say he is completely global yet. I dont think dominating or embarrassing a cancer survivor will help his case either. He doesn't have the kind of personality to win and not come off as an ass. Golovkin needs a career defining win. Pacquiao and Mayweather had it in beating De la Hoya. Dominating people you're supposed to dominate is actually kinda boring. That's why people stop watching a game if it's a blow out.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
              Chavez Jr is mexican and has a legendary daddy and he's never reached the heights that Canelo has. Marquez is Mexican and put Pacquaio to sleep and still never reached the status Canelo has. The idea he's just mexican so he's huge is ******. It helps but there are many reason why Canelo attracts fans other mexicans and other fighters don't. There's an "IT" factor that some fighters have. Manny had it, Oscar had it ect. Nobody gave a phuk about the Philippines in boxing. They don't make up a significant part of the US population and nobody said being that nationality was an asset to a boxer until Manny exploded and crossed over. Being from Khazakstan isn't holding GGG back. It's being old and having wasted his career fighting bums has. He needs to fight better competition and sacrifice to get big name. Manny took risks and got the type of fights he needed to get to get to that next level. GGG has done the opposite and found excuses to not make those fights. He wants PPV superstar status without doing what those PPV superstar did to make fights fans cared about. If Manny doesn't move up to fight Barrera, then Morales, Marquez and stayed at bantomweight when all the better fights were at featherweight and superfeatherweight nobody cares about him. Then leaped up multiple weights to land Oscar fight. Manny could of stayed at a shyt weight class till he was 35 and made excuses telling the Barrera/Morales/Marquez of the world they need to come down to my weight. Could of told Oscar you need to come down to 140 and none of these fights happen and he's not a cross over star.
              Chavez Jr. Sold 475,000 PPV against Martinez, more than Cotto and I'm guessing you'd say Chavez never reached the level,of Cotto either.. Being Mexican is A HUGE plus and having a strong B side helps immensely as well.

              Do you base status on PPV sales? Marquez is a Mexican legend. Where's GGG's Morrales, Barrera, and Oscar? Is it Degale? Abraham? Zurdo? His one and ONLY major payday comes vs Canelo. Do I agree he should probably take the $15 million? Sure. But it's his teams job to get as much as they can and that's what they're doing.

              Remember Canelo dropping his title? That wasn't GGG making excuses to not fight him. Martinez not wanting to fight him? Also GGG fault? Sturm? All his fault I guess. It takes 2 to tango

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              • #57
                Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
                Part of why people care about Canelo and not GGG is he's only 26 and has already fought Floyd, Cotto, Chavez, Trout, Mosley, Lara, ect and has moved up and down weight to make fights fans want. GGG refuses and his fans just want him to be given the status other fighters had to take in the ring. Canelo fighting a unknown UK fighter and drawing over 50,000 fans MORE then Manny did in his prime by the way, doing double PPV sales then what GGG did fighting Lemiuex in his biggest fight of his career speaks to the difference. Of course having a good dance partner matters see Manny's flop numbers against Rios, Algieri and Vargas for proof. But it's not anybody but GGG's fault that he turned down 168 to fight Ward and other big names. That he turned down 154 for Canelo and is now talking about turning down 15m at 160 to fight in Khazakstan for peanuts. He's 35 and been turning down better dance partner fights that might take him to that next level with 1 excuse after the next. Mr 154 or 168 SMH
                I didn't know June and September were the same months and fighting in June meant not being able to fight in September. That's fking laughable and if you're someone who believes he shouldn't or can't fight in June to become undisputed champion then there's no reason even discussing the topic with you.
                Ward just did 160k against a top p4p fighter in Kovalev. What would you do, wait for Canelo when he was supposed to fight you after Cotto and make huge money or fight Ward for peanuts and have a good chance of losing. He didn't turn down the "big names" he actually wanted to fight them in Froch and Chavez Jr. Ward is a great fighter with no $$ attached to his name like those others. It's not really hard to understand if you looked at it with a unbiased view. Impossible, I know.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Jsmooth9876 View Post
                  Chavez Jr. Sold 475,000 PPV against Martinez, more than Cotto and I'm guessing you'd say Chavez never reached the level,of Cotto either.. Being Mexican is A HUGE plus and having a strong B side helps immensely as well.

                  Do you base status on PPV sales? Marquez is a Mexican legend. Where's GGG's Morrales, Barrera, and Oscar? Is it Degale? Abraham? Zurdo? His one and ONLY major payday comes vs Canelo. Do I agree he should probably take the $15 million? Sure. But it's his teams job to get as much as they can and that's what they're doing.

                  Remember Canelo dropping his title? That wasn't GGG making excuses to not fight him. Martinez not wanting to fight him? Also GGG fault? Sturm? All his fault I guess. It takes 2 to tango
                  GGG's Barrera, morales and Marquez were at 154 and 168. Manny could of stayed at bantonweight and been more dominate but never as popular so he did what greats do when they don't have big names in their weight they move. Oscar became huge after he moved up to 140 to fight Chavez he was more dominant at 135 but kept moving up for bigger fights. GGG staying put wasting so much of his career fighting bums at 160 is his fault nobody else. Nobody is calling Chavez Jr one of the biggest draws in Mexican history plenty bigger draws including canelo. So being Mexican doesn't guarantee you jack. Chavez was Mexican and came from royalty and never reached canelo and many other Mexican heights. There is more to just being Mexican, Puerto Rican or any race. Marquez is Mexican and beat Manny and still was never a bigger draw then Manny despite more Mexicans then Phillipines in this country. Manny had "it" Marquez didnt.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Jsmooth9876 View Post
                    I didn't know June and September were the same months and fighting in June meant not being able to fight in September. That's fking laughable and if you're someone who believes he shouldn't or can't fight in June to become undisputed champion then there's no reason even discussing the topic with you.
                    Ward just did 160k against a top p4p fighter in Kovalev. What would you do, wait for Canelo when he was supposed to fight you after Cotto and make huge money or fight Ward for peanuts and have a good chance of losing. He didn't turn down the "big names" he actually wanted to fight them in Froch and Chavez Jr. Ward is a great fighter with no $$ attached to his name like those others. It's not really hard to understand if you looked at it with a unbiased view. Impossible, I know.
                    If Oscar told Manny if you want to fight me sign now if you take a interim fight I'm going to give the offer to someone else do you think Manny the clear B side goes and turns down all that money to phuk around with June fight? Floyd had to go to Oscars weight, fight on his date, his split, his ring, his gloves and every other A side demand. Manny did the same thing to cotto and many other fighters. And if you want the money and the shine you do it. Canelo had to do it for floyd. Again GGG wants the ppv superstar status given to him and doesn't want to earn it in the ring. Take the B side role get the fight win and you call the shots after. If floyd didn't play ball with oscar he would still be great but not as rich and famous.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
                      If Oscar told Manny if you want to fight me sign now if you take a interim fight I'm going to give the offer to someone else do you think Manny the clear B side goes and turns down all that money to phuk around with June fight? Floyd had to go to Oscars weight, fight on his date, his split, his ring, his gloves and every other A side demand. Manny did the same thing to cotto and many other fighters. And if you want the money and the shine you do it. Canelo had to do it for floyd. Again GGG wants the ppv superstar status given to him and doesn't want to earn it in the ring. Take the B side role get the fight win and you call the shots after. If floyd didn't play ball with oscar he would still be great but not as rich and famous.
                      I agree but Floyd got like $25 million in that fight. You're putting Canelo in a status that he's nowhere close to. He's no Oscar, Floyd or Manny. No where in the vicinity. He may be a superstar in today's boxing but not close to their level.

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