Anyone Else Feel Uneasy about the Scoring Change?

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  • GunStar
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    #41
    Originally posted by Mech.
    Well the round by round says the fight was scored

    115-113 for Juarez, 115-113 for Barrera, 114-114 a draw

    and fightn3s reports the fight changed to:

    115-114, 115-113 Barrera, 115-114 Juarez, so Barrera actually wins a split decision.

    so two scores where changed no? heres the masterscorecard

    [IMG]http://www.*********.com/barrera_juarez_scorecard.gif[/IMG]
    Thanks for the pic, it clearly shows foul play.

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    • Papa Ace
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      #42
      Originally posted by Gunstar1
      Thanks for the pic, it clearly shows foul play.
      i wonder how much duane and morita gets for this?

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      • GunStar
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        #43
        Originally posted by Ace_Kicker
        i wonder how much duane and morita gets for this?
        Probably a date with Oscar.

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        • josenoway
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          #44
          wow. that looks shady as hell. damn, way to go boxing, put another bullet in that foot.

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          • moy22487
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            #45
            Originally posted by $Manny_P$
            they changed the scores bro. Those were 9's there. Oscar pulled some strings because he knows, a loss for Barrera is a serious blow to Barrera's carreer, and an end to of coming cash for Oscar Promotions.

            I dare anyone prove me wrong. This is just low.
            it wouldnt be a loss. its would still be a draw. but the fight going to barrera is what it should of been

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            • psychopath
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              #46
              There seems to be a lot of confussion on the changes made.

              Here's the whole story:


              Verdict changed after HBO signs off the air


              Marco Antonio Barrera W12 Rocky Juarez... The legendary Marco Antonio Barrera overcame an apparently broken nose and struggled through the challenger's late rally to retain the world junior lightweight championship against Rocky Juarez. After twelve thrilling rounds, a stalemate verdict of 115-113 Juarez, 115-113 Barrera and 114-114 was announced to the crowd and it was well-received. Overshadowing a great fight, two scorecards were re-tabulated after HBO went off the air, with judge Ken Morita's 114-114 scorecard changed by the California Athletic Commission to 115-114 in Barrera's favor, giving Barrera a win in a most unsatisfying, but not necessarily undeserved fashion. A score of 115-114 translates to six rounds for Barrera, five for Juarez, and one round, in Morita's case the twelfth and final round, scored 10-10, something judges are permitted to do, but are strongly discouraged from in actual practice. In further embarrassment to the California commission, the announced 115-113 tally in Juarez's favor was amended to 115-114 Juarez. The fight was close enough to have gone either way, and Punchstat numbers seemed to validate a draw, crediting Barrera with landing more punches overall, 168-135, but giving Juarez a 105-84 edge in power punches. Nominally Barrera was the winner, but in a sense both men came out of the Los Angeles ring in better stead than they entered it: sixteen years into Barrera's storied career, he took on the challenge of a talented Olympic medal winer and survived adversity to retain his championship; meanwhile, Juarez proved beyond any doubt he is now an A-level boxer. Juarez staggered the world champion with a left hand to the top of the head just before the end of the third round. In between rounds, blood began flowing from the nose of Barrera, but by the fourth round, he was back in control. The man who brawled so magnificiently in a trio of fights against Erik Morales demonstrated Hall of Fame caliber versatility, winning the fifth round with an almost uncharacteristic jab but then stepping back inside for toe-to-toe exchanges in the sixth. Still, Juarez was very much in the fight, not only landing meaningful punches of his own but also coaxing more blood from Juarez's nose in the seventh. The eighth round was even better for Juarez, who began to mount a late charge. Barrera lost his mouthpiece for the third time in the eighth, leading to speculation that he was having trouble breathing through his nose or had suffered a jaw injury (Barrera claimed afterwards the mouthpiece was simply ill-fitting). Before the tenth round, Barrera, his nose swollen and likely broken, seemed to show his age, and Juarez further battered the champion's proboscis with at least three hard shots that round. Both men realized the championship was up for grabs and laid it all on the line in the last two rounds. If the Barrera decision holds up, Juarez is now 25-2 while the 32 year-old Barrera, now a pro boxer for half of his life, goes to 62-4. Needless to say, a rematch is in order as soon as Barrera is healed. sources: HBO Championship Boxing. AP

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              • mokele
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                #47
                a little uneasy

                Before the cards were read for the 1st time I thought that Barrera was ahead by 1 or 2 points based on a lead he built up over the 1st 8 rounds. He landed a lot of jabs and was outpunching Juarez for the 1st 8 rounds, but Juarez came on strong at the end. Barrera looked bad near the end, with maybe a broken nose. He might have had trouble breathing which explains his running tactics and occasional holding. Juarez looked like a winner at the end but I'm sure that Barrera landed more punches if not the more effective ones. The fight could have gone either way. A draw was acceptable to me. I was surprised as heck that the result was changed but I suppose that's better than allowing an error in adding the scorecards to stick.

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                • drh
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                  #48
                  this looks real BAD!

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                  • elgaringo
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                    #49
                    It looks real shady to me. I thought it was fair as a draw!! I hate it when this happens!! I hated it when it happened to Winky against Harry Simon!! It all seemed a little unorganised.. It certainly left a sour taste in my mouth. Just as this has!!!

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                    • elgaringo
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                      #50
                      I've just got a look at the cards.. It looks abvious to my that the cards have been changed at the end to accomidate Barrera!! It you ask me thay should change it back to a draw in light of this obvious discrepancy!!! Just the fact that us the fans have seen this and it looks like it does...

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