If GGG wins where does he rank on you p4p

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  • HeadShots
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    #21
    Originally posted by thecomedian2
    Not true, he won a competitive fight to capture his FOURTH WEIGHT DIVISION CHAMPIONSHIP, where he is the smaller boxer, something GGG will never be able to accomplish...
    doesn't matter. he fights in the manlet divisions. that only means he was cutting more weight. now he's fighting at his natural weight class.


    ggg fights in a man weight class and his natural weight class his entire career.

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    • SensFullViolenc
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      #22
      Even if he wins in dominant fashion, he probably stays at #4 for me. Jacobs would be a good win, the clear #2 at MW, but he isn't even a fringe p4per, so it would just be confirmation of GGG's p4p status.

      I admit that GGG doesn't have great fighters on his resume. But he demolished a string of solid MW fighters. The eye test says he has p4p #1 talent. But he needs better fighters on his resume, or more weight classes to move up IMO.

      Chocolatito is clear #1 to me. Eye test. Good names through 4 weight classes, and generally dominant wins. (Only Cuadras and Estrada were competitive, but they were still clear Choco wins - lol at thinking he "arguably lost")

      I have Kova & Ward as 2a and 2b, reflecting my view that Kova won the fight.

      If the judges had accurately called Ward losing, then maybe GGG could move up to #3. But I have some respect for the official decision, and Ward was competitive against the very best fighter in a second weight class (and he dominated SMW, including a p4per in Froch)

      Crawford, Loma I could see the argument for being above GGG, but I don't think they've done enough yet.

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      • HeadShots
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        #23
        P4P Degale is above Jacobs.


        But is Degale really above Jacobs? He arguably lost his last fight against Jack who has a journeymen record compared to Jacobs. Neither of whom are dominant in at SMW. They squeak by with draws and SD's against absolute bums. Yet they are more touted because of Degale's personality. it's ridiculous.



        Jacobs > Degale

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        • Sheldon312
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          #24
          Originally posted by Sadiqkingofko
          Crawford - Two Weight Lineal Champ
          Lomachenko - Russell and Walters are bigger wins
          Thurman - Porter and Garcia are bigger wins
          Jacob's p4p is better than anything Crawford and Lima have fought.

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          • SensFullViolenc
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            #25
            Originally posted by HeadShots
            doesn't matter. he fights in the manlet divisions. that only means he was cutting more weight. now he's fighting at his natural weight class.


            ggg fights in a man weight class and his natural weight class his entire career.
            Choco is visibly small for SupaFly.

            It seems clear that you don't respect the smaller divisions. Even if you discount the 4 different divisions, if you put them all in one division, Chocolatito still has much better names than GGG.

            Cuadras & Estrada are better than Jacobs, or anyone else GGG has beat. Viloria, Arroyo, Rodriguez, Yaegashi compare to anyone GGG has currently on his resume.

            Even if he beat Canelo & Charlo, GGG may not overtake Choco. He needs to go to SMW to do that.

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            • thecomedian2
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              #26
              Originally posted by SensFullViolenc
              Choco is visibly small for SupaFly.
              That is True, but the guy you posted clearly DKSAB...

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              • thecomedian2
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                #27
                Originally posted by HeadShots
                doesn't matter. he fights in the manlet divisions. that only means he was cutting more weight. now he's fighting at his natural weight class.


                ggg fights in a man weight class and his natural weight class his entire career.
                That is pure garbage and only shows your complete lack of knowledge on the subject at hand(Boxing), Chocolatito at SuperFly now is fighting Guys that could have NEVER EVER cut enough weight to make the strawweight limit, much less become a champion, sorry to tell you son but you clearly DKSAB.

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                • BM dnobagaV
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by HeadShots
                  Ward is too inactive and he's not dominant. close and controversial decisions. illegal tactics.


                  Kovalev just lost to a guy coming up in weight.


                  Choco just arguably lost.



                  GGG more dominant.
                  Broner was also dominant. Against trash. Same with GGG.

                  His hype & potential don't merit a ****ing #1 P4P ranking when his resume is THAT awful.
                  Beat Saunders or Canelo after then we can talk.

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                  • Metho_4u
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                    Somewhere between 10-15
                    ^^^^ dis ****

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                    • mathed
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by SensFullViolenc
                      Even if he wins in dominant fashion, he probably stays at #4 for me. Jacobs would be a good win, the clear #2 at MW, but he isn't even a fringe p4per, so it would just be confirmation of GGG's p4p status.

                      I admit that GGG doesn't have great fighters on his resume. But he demolished a string of solid MW fighters. The eye test says he has p4p #1 talent. But he needs better fighters on his resume, or more weight classes to move up IMO.

                      Chocolatito is clear #1 to me. Eye test. Good names through 4 weight classes, and generally dominant wins. (Only Cuadras and Estrada were competitive, but they were still clear Choco wins - lol at thinking he "arguably lost")

                      I have Kova & Ward as 2a and 2b, reflecting my view that Kova won the fight.

                      If the judges had accurately called Ward losing, then maybe GGG could move up to #3. But I have some respect for the official decision, and Ward was competitive against the very best fighter in a second weight class (and he dominated SMW, including a p4per in Froch)

                      Crawford, Loma I could see the argument for being above GGG, but I don't think they've done enough yet.
                      Wouldn't let me give out green K but that's one hell of a solid post!!

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