Would 15 rounds favor Kovalev or Ward?

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  • Jewish-Reptile
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    #31
    Originally posted by daggum
    gloves landed? just watch the video. if you want to keep lying to yourself thats ok. you think ward low blows are prob body punches so its prob a lost cause.
    Why don't we not bother watching it at all and just look at compubox, punches landed doe...

    I'm howling back here man, you're about the funniest guy I ever met. We gotta hook up more often, this is funny shyt.

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    • therealpugilist
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      #32
      Originally posted by Boxfan83
      Whether you think Ward won or lost there should be no denying it was a close fight. So do you think 15rds would settle the debate in a rematch?

      Personally I think Ward vs Kovalev II is the perfect fight for boxing to go back to 15rds. Less chances of a draw and better chances of a definitive winner.

      Thoughts?
      Ward


      He got stronger as most of his fights progressed.... Kov slows down

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      • daggum
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        #33
        Originally posted by ScottWeiland
        Why don't we not bother watching it at all and just look at compubox, punches landed doe...

        I'm howling back here man, you're about the funniest guy I ever met. We gotta hook up more often, this is funny shyt.
        we are looking at who landed more and who landed better. when kov does both those why would ward deserve to win the round? you seem to get distracted easily by other things that are happening in the fight. subjective things like who looks tired. this is boxing. everything that happens in a fight is to setup landing punches. if you arent doing that you arent winning.

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        • Boxfan83
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          #34
          Originally posted by therealpugilist
          Ward


          He got stronger as most of his fights progressed.... Kov slows down
          True those body shots contributed to his slowing. I dont think Team Kov was prepared for Ward to stick to the body plan especially after the KD. I think their defensive gameplan was to hurt Ward and make him hesitant but it didnt turn out that way.

          And IMO thats where some dont give Ward credit, he stuck to his guns even though fighting in and out with a sustained body attack can be extremely dangerous gameplan given Kov's style...

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            #35
            I think that the first fight, Ward finished stronger but it still wasn't enough to win.

            That said, had there been 3 more rounds, chances are that Ward would have rightfully won a decision.

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            • Jewish-Reptile
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              #36
              Originally posted by daggum
              we are looking at who landed more and who landed better. when kov does both those why would ward deserve to win the round? you seem to get distracted easily by other things that are happening in the fight. subjective things like who looks tired. this is boxing. everything that happens in a fight is to setup landing punches. if you arent doing that you arent winning.
              Familiarise yourself on how to score a fight, let me know how you got on telling the three judges they're clueless too. I take back what I said about you, you're one of the funniest guys I met here, friends request incoming.

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              • Ray Corso
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                #37
                Koval work rate is not his strong suit, he can't stay hot over 12 rds how can he smoke in 15?
                This guy needs to get into "fighting shape" and learn to feel 3 minutes and work!
                He got out conditioned and out worked, not by much but enough to lose!

                Ray

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                • daggum
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by ScottWeiland
                  Familiarise yourself on how to score a fight, let me know how you got on telling the three judges they're clueless too. I take back what I said about you, you're one of the funniest guys I met here, friends request incoming.
                  your argument is that boxing judges are always right? yea.... just tell me how kovalev lost a round in which he landed over twice as many punches, landed the much cleaner, much harder flush shots, and on top of that made ward look like a fool by wobbling him with a jab after trying to bolo punch. your argument is that ward won the roudn because the judges said so...therefore you agree with every single roudn a judge has ever scored? you dont have your own opinion what a cuck

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                  • Boxfan83
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Ray Corso
                    Koval work rate is not his strong suit, he can't stay hot over 12 rds how can he smoke in 15?
                    This guy needs to get into "fighting shape" and learn to feel 3 minutes and work!
                    He got out conditioned and out worked, not by much but enough to lose!

                    Ray
                    I remember reading somewhere Kov cuts a lot of weight and no one likes to be around him the last couple weeks because hes an ******. IMO if you have to spend a lot of time in camp focusing on weight, you cut huge into your technique and conditioning. Eventually itll catch up to him but until then Kov is 1 dangerous LHW.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Boxfan83
                      True those body shots contributed to his slowing. I dont think Team Kov was prepared for Ward to stick to the body plan especially after the KD. I think their defensive gameplan was to hurt Ward and make him hesitant but it didnt turn out that way.

                      And IMO thats where some dont give Ward credit, he stuck to his guns even though fighting in and out with a sustained body attack can be extremely dangerous gameplan given Kov's style...
                      they were too busy hoping he'd get knocked out and giving kov credit for rounds he lost, to even notice. Dude barely won a clear round after 5, that's why there was so much bellyaching about round ten.

                      it was a WOBBERWE I TELL YA A WOBBERWE

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