Who are tougher? Mexicans or Russians?

[HeadShots]

hmm i don't believe i did but if that make you feel better go ahead.


did u even read the article? no u didn't


so it has nothing to do with mexican warfare

since the dude was in the american army just happens to be of mexican descent


calls me insecure but comes running here to talk **** to someone he never spoke to before

[boliodogs]

Boxers are individuals. You can lump them into one big group with exactly the same toughness. Some Mexican boxers are tough and some aren't tough. That goes for Russian boxers and all other nationalities as well. No one country has cornered the market on toughness.

[g27region]

Boxers are individuals. You can lump them into one big group with exactly the same toughness. Some Mexican boxers are tough and some aren't tough. That goes for Russian boxers and all other nationalities as well. No one country has cornered the market on toughness.

The smartest and most rational message in this thread so far

[swaggertron1]

The losing side always has to blame something to discredit the win of the opposite side. Kovalev lost to Ward because he overtrained and spent 4 weeks in the mountains instead of 3 weeks. Pacquiao would knock out Mayweather if it wasn't for injured shoulder, that's the same BS



And your country doesn't love "propagonda" and not biased at all. Saying that Napoleon started retreating in October or that most succesful Soviet battles in WW2 were in summer is not a propaganda or my wishful thinking, it's an actual fact, because these events happened at that certain moment, not earlier or later, and you can like it or not but the fact remains. Propaganda would be ignoring all these facts and saying that the winter was the main factor



First it was the weather, now it's because of logistics. In other words, Russia wasn't that good, it's Napoleon army was that bad, and the fact that the same army dominated the whole European continent doesn't matter. But when that army intervened Russia, it was the straw that broke the camel's back




I don't remember when I've said we won the war alone against Germany.



I'm not going to debunk this one. Russia lost that war, it has a lot to do with domestic problems the country had at that point of time, the government was barely controlling the country, especially Far Eastern region of the country that was far away from Western regions with a way better developed infrastructure




We're warrior nation, but every warrior nation seen it's share of defeats like you say. We lost few wars but the thing is, everytime when somebody tried to conquer Russia and get on our soil, these attempts weren't succesful, all of them, and not because of the weather. There was a lot of trying - Russia was invaded by Poland, Sweden, Germany, France, Mongols, Ottoman Empire, all of these attempts failed and all these countries were military powerhouses at these periods of times, they were conquering other territories with ease and almost no resistance but invading Russia was biting more than they could chew - Russia was putting an end to all these conquests. Mongols attempt wasn't succesful as well in the long run, because eventually Russians defeated Mongols and got rid of their control, took their territory and Russians didn't get integrated in Mongol society and country like it happened with Britons and Saxons in British islands. Do you really want to discuss that on boxing forum?

All these myths about a quarter of a year being such a huge factor in a 5 year war is a way to take the credit from us and from what we've sacrificed to win this war.

^ sound like you did say they won


hmmm u did get conquer by the mongol thru the golden horde and the mongol didn't really integrated anyone into their society since they were the ones who assimilated into others societies. look at the Yuan dynasty they integrated into Chinese society, the same with Ilkhanate in the middle east and the same with the golden horde. what you did is overthrow their rules just like all the other before you, but in the end you still got conquer by them. for almost 250 yrs. but enough of this, your right, this is a boxing forum. you seem like a sensible guy so I will be as well and stop this nonsense.

so back to the topic

[swaggertron1]

build the wall so my market value can go up since I'm bilingual I say.

[eco1]

Green K for that

Every country has it's own agenda, especially big players like Russia, US or China, blaming some side of being biased is ******, everyone is guilty nowadays. We can only discuss facts, and saying that WW2 lasted 5 years and that the winter is only a quarter of each years is an undeniable fact. Saying that Russians won only because of the winter is a propaganda and assumption. You don't have to be biased, you just have to use your logic to understand that

Green Karma sent too!