Who are tougher? Mexicans or Russians?

[swaggertron1]

Dude, I speak Spanish better than English, so I should be on your side, but Russians are tougher than anything on Earth.

Do you know what happened 4 or so months ago and CNN and Fox Propaganda teams failed to show?

One Russian Spetnaz was doing a lone mission and he was surrounded by 200 ISIS men.
The MF sent his location and asked to be bombed in his darn head.
He died but took 200 men with him to hell.

Roy Benavidez <- read about this mexico dude if you think what that spetnaz did was epic
https://www.sofmag.com/legend-green-...s-saved-8-men/

[Madison Boxing]

two proud warrior nations. one isnt tougher than the other.

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Russia has practically lost every war its been but ww2 where it had help with the allies.

it lost to the mongol hordes, it lost to afganstan, it lost to japan (which make it the only western power to ever lose to an eastern country) and it lost during the cold war which reduce it to a 3rd world country.

and the natives did not lose every war against europe. for example, the chichimecas beat the spaniards when they was trying to conquer mexico and just assimilated them into the Spanish empire through a truce. beside disease was the main factor in their conquest of the americas since europeans are dirty lil ****.

either way

to answer the op

like someone said, lower weight classes I would say Mexicans but the Japanese are definitely making a case for themselves.

upper weight classes Russians are tough as ****.

US lost in vietnam


US arguably lost in Korea too


Russia is not western. It's eastern just lol

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Roy Benavidez <- read about this mexico dude if you think what that spetnaz did was epic
https://www.sofmag.com/legend-green-...s-saved-8-men/

nice comic there.

lol @ comparing Mexico to Russia in warfare. I've seen everything now.

[g27region]

you getting your info from davydov whom was a Russian solider himself. while I'm getting it from the french whom blame the weather.

The losing side always has to blame something to discredit the win of the opposite side. Kovalev lost to Ward because he overtrained and spent 4 weeks in the mountains instead of 3 weeks. Pacquiao would knock out Mayweather if it wasn't for injured shoulder, that's the same BS

(both can be major propagonda and your country sure does love that ****)

And your country doesn't love "propagonda" and not biased at all. Saying that Napoleon started retreating in October or that most succesful Soviet battles in WW2 were in summer is not a propaganda or my wishful thinking, it's an actual fact, because these events happened at that certain moment, not earlier or later, and you can like it or not but the fact remains. Propaganda would be ignoring all these facts and saying that the winter was the main factor

the truth has more to do with logistics more than Russia superior fighting efficiency. either way, you focusing on one thing but choose to ignore everything else.

First it was the weather, now it's because of logistics. In other words, Russia wasn't that good, it's Napoleon army was that bad, and the fact that the same army dominated the whole European continent doesn't matter. But when that army intervened Russia, it was the straw that broke the camel's back

you did not win the war alone against Germany, Germany pretty much shot itself on the foot fighting in two fronts, this is a fact and my point. you can't claim sole victory just because you reach the capital first, specially when you had allies helping you fight.

I don't remember when I've said we won the war alone against Germany.

and no you can't debunk the other ones cause they're true. like the Rus/Japanese war.

I'm not going to debunk this one. Russia lost that war, it has a lot to do with domestic problems the country had at that point of time, the government was barely controlling the country, especially Far Eastern region of the country that was far away from Western regions with a way better developed infrastructure

also the fact that this myth that Russia is some master of war when this is a myth. it has seen its share of defeats.

We're warrior nation, but every warrior nation seen it's share of defeats like you say. We lost few wars but the thing is, everytime when somebody tried to conquer Russia and get on our soil, these attempts weren't succesful, all of them, and not because of the weather. There was a lot of trying - Russia was invaded by Poland, Sweden, Germany, France, Mongols, Ottoman Empire, all of these attempts failed and all these countries were military powerhouses at these periods of times, they were conquering other territories with ease and almost no resistance but invading Russia was biting more than they could chew - Russia was putting an end to all these conquests. Mongols attempt wasn't succesful as well in the long run, because eventually Russians defeated Mongols and got rid of their control, took their territory and Russians didn't get integrated in Mongol society and country like it happened with Britons and Saxons in British islands. Do you really want to discuss that on boxing forum?

[eco1]

The losing side always has to blame something to discredit the win of the opposite side. Kovalev lost to Ward because he overtrained and spent 4 weeks in the mountains instead of 3 weeks. Pacquiao would knock out Mayweather if it wasn't for injured shoulder, that's the same BS



And your country doesn't love "propagonda" and not biased at all. Saying that Napoleon started retreating in October or that most succesful Soviet battles in WW2 were in summer is not a propaganda or my wishful thinking, it's an actual fact, because these events happened at that certain moment, not earlier or later, and you can like it or not but the fact remains. Propaganda would be ignoring all these facts and saying that the winter was the main factor



First it was the weather, now it's because of logistics. In other words, Russia wasn't that good, it's Napoleon army was that bad, and the fact that the same army dominated the whole European continent doesn't matter. But when that army intervened Russia, it was the straw that broke the camel's back




I don't remember when I've said we won the war alone against Germany.



I'm not going to debunk this one. Russia lost that war, it has a lot to do with domestic problems the country had at that point of time, the government was barely controlling the country, especially Far Eastern region of the country that was far away from Western regions with a way better developed infrastructure




We're warrior nation, but every warrior nation seen it's share of defeats like you say. We lost few wars but the thing is, everytime when somebody tried to conquer Russia and get on our soil, these attempts weren't succesful, all of them, and not because of the weather. There was a lot of trying - Russia was invaded by Poland, Sweden, Germany, France, Mongols, Ottoman Empire, all of these attempts failed and all these countries were military powerhouses at these periods of times, they were conquering other territories with ease and almost no resistance but invading Russia was biting more than they could chew - Russia was putting an end to all these conquests. Mongols attempt wasn't succesful as well in the long run, because eventually Russians defeated Mongols and got rid of their control, took their territory and they didn't get integrated in Mongol society and country like it happened with Britons and Saxons in British islands. Do you really want to discuss that on boxing forum?

CNN and Fox are pure propaganda.
Every "movement" is induced and follows an agenda. North Americans are too occupied with the Super Bowl to know facts.

By the way, I am an American.

[swaggertron1]

nice comic there.

lol @ comparing Mexico to Russia in warfare. I've seen everything now.

who comparing anything to anything u braindead ******

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who comparing anything to anything u braindead ******

you just did and now you're upset.

somebody's insecure. =)

[g27region]

CNN and Fox are pure propaganda.
Every "movement" is induced and follows an agenda. North Americans are too occupied with the Super Bowl to know facts.

By the way, I am an American.

Green K for that

Every country has it's own agenda, especially big players like Russia, US or China, blaming some side of being biased is ******, everyone is guilty nowadays. We can only discuss facts, and saying that WW2 lasted 5 years and that the winter is only a quarter of each years is an undeniable fact. Saying that Russians won only because of the winter is a propaganda and assumption. You don't have to be biased, you just have to use your logic to understand that

[swaggertron1]

you just did and now you're upset.

somebody's insecure. =)

hmm i don't believe i did but if that make you feel better go ahead.


did u even read the article? no u didn't


so it has nothing to do with mexican warfare

since the dude was in the american army just happens to be of mexican descent


calls me insecure but comes running here to talk **** to someone he never spoke to before