Modern Fighters Can't Really Be Compared with Older Eras

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  • GMAN SUPREME
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    #11
    Originally posted by anthonydavid11
    The Heavyweight Ratings for The RING in February 1947

    Joe Louis, Champion

    1. Tami Mauriello
    2. Elmer Ray
    3. Jersey Joe Walcott
    4. Bruce Wood****
    5. Lee Q Murray
    6. Curtis Sheppard
    7. Melio Bettina
    8. Joe Baksi
    9. Joe Kahut
    10. Joey Maxim

    Notice how there are ten contenders- just contenders?

    If it were today, Louis would be WBA super champ, Mauriello would be IBF champ, Jersey Joe would hold the WBA regular title and Wood**** would hold the WBC belt and what the hell? I'll give Maxim the WBC title. See how ridiculous this sport has become?
    LOL only in this era can an absolute bum like charles martin hold a belt.

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    • Tony Trick-Pony
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      #12
      Originally posted by GMAN SUPREME
      LOL only in this era can an absolute bum like charles martin hold a belt.
      Ah, but see? Anthony Joshua did beat a titleholder and that can be repeated over and over like he beat a real champion. I like Joshua and take nothing away from him but a guy like martin has no business ever holding a belt- even an alphabet one. Yet, in this day and time...

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      • Holystroke3
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        #13
        Isn't this the whole point of the lineal champion? It's certainly not perfect but in Golovkin's case, if his first title shot was against Martinez, in one fight he would have been considered "the" middleweight champion

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          #14
          Originally posted by Holystroke3
          Isn't this the whole point of the lineal champion? It's certainly not perfect but in Golovkin's case, if his first title shot was against Martinez, in one fight he would have been considered "the" middleweight champion
          I wish it had gone down that way, but look at it. The sport itself is asking us true fans to look up and try to figure out who the lineal champion is. It should be obvious to us and the casuals who the champion is. When your entertainment puts you to work, something is seriously wrong with that.

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          • Tony Trick-Pony
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            #15
            THE RING Lightweight Ratings. Jr. Lightweight
            Champ: Jorge Linares Champ: Vacant
            1. Mikey Garcia 1. Vasyl Lomachenko
            2. Terry Flanagan 2.Orlando Salido
            3. Robert Easter 3. Jezreel Corrales
            4. Anthony Crolla 4. Miguel Berchelt
            5. Denis Shafikov 5. Takashi Miura
            6. Sharif Bogere 6. Gervonta Davis
            7. Richard Commey 7. Takashi Uchiyama
            8. Felix Verdejo 8. Francisco Vargas
            9. Dejan Zlaticanin 9. Roman Martinez
            10. Petr Petrov 10. Jason Sosa

            Take 130 out and you have:

            Champ: Jorge Linares
            1. Vasyl Lomachenko
            2. Mikey Garcia
            3.Orlando Salido
            4. Terry Flanagan
            5. Robert Easter
            6. Jezreel Corrales
            7. Anthony Crolla
            8. Miguel Berchelt
            9. Denis Shavikov
            10. Takashi Miura

            See the difference?

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            • al-Xander
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              #16
              I'm sure fighters in the past fight more often than these current crop of fighters.

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              • Tony Trick-Pony
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                #17
                Originally posted by JoeMan
                I'm sure fighters in the past fight more often than these current crop of fighters.
                Yeah like Harry Greb. He went 45-0...in one year. Haha.

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                • Tony Trick-Pony
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by AlexKid
                  Yea they can, its just the older fighters dont fare very well, good troll btw oh sorry I blew your cover, whoops
                  Good post. Enjoy your ban.

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                  • Awayfromhome
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                    #19
                    kinda hard to compare yes - but to be fair to todays fighters - the international amateur pedigree that many of todays fighters have is also something that needs to be acknowleged - people like Lomanchenko and GGG have been facing a lot of tough fighters from all over the world in a globally scene that didint exist in days gone by. They racked up tons of impressive wins before ever turning pro.

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                    • Joe Beamish
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by anthonydavid11
                      I wish it had gone down that way, but look at it. The sport itself is asking us true fans to look up and try to figure out who the lineal champion is. It should be obvious to us and the casuals who the champion is. When your entertainment puts you to work, something is seriously wrong with that.
                      I watched the Thurman/Garcia fight in a hotel bar with assorted sports fans, not boxing fans, and had to remind someone about multiple belts and champions, and he rolled his eyes and said oh yeah, right. Like, "I remember why boxing sucks."

                      Most Americans (and maybe everyone else too, I don't know) want to find out who the best is in their sport. Best in their weight division. This makes sense in all sports -- except today's boxing. You get to see a real championship, a definite winner. Except in boxing.

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