Culcay vs Andrade!!!

[285Kid]

Not sure where Andrade goes from here for a first defense but he needs to be more active and sharpen up, because better fights will beat him if he looks like he did tonight.

Diego Chaves in 3 months the key is to keep him in the ring

[kiaba360]

IDK if Andrade should fight Lara next, he didn't look good. Fight Soro or Hurd.

[mlac]

To be fair if they treated Culcay like they did Ottke that would have been a comfortable 120-72 victory for Culcay.

German's have improved.

Ze Germans save their fully fledged robberies for the pure germans like Sturm, immigrants like culcay and Abraham, will get a half hearted robbery attempted with a few SD here and there

[Dean_Razorback]

Diego Chaves in 3 months the key is to keep him in the ring

diego chaves? lol he is fighting at 154 lbs but needs to move down to welter. he has no business at 154.

[moochi]

To be fair if they treated Culcay like they did Ottke that would have been a comfortable 120-72 victory for Culcay.

German's have improved.

Yes but at the same time different countries prefer different styles of boxing.

Germany is all about the sporting side of boxing, so if you score more jabs and receive a few power shots, you'd still win the round. Other countries different.

Look at Floyd's fights, had he fought those fights elsewhere he would have easily had a couple losses.

[Sparked_26]

Yes but at the same time different countries prefer different styles of boxing.

Germany is all about the sporting side of boxing, so if you score more jabs and receive a few power shots, you'd still win the round. Other countries different.

Look at Floyd's fights, had he fought those fights elsewhere he would have easily had a couple losses.

Good post.

It is weird, Jack had that standard German high guard and the lad is from Ecuador.

To me it always looks so passive. If the opponent is rattling off combinations on nothing but gloves and he gets caught with a few jabs I can't bring myself to hold those jabs in any high regard. Even though really that is a sort of prejudice on my part against that style. You're right that it might be a cultural thing.

Anthony Crolla has that kind of defence and he doesn't have it easy on the scorecards even in his hometown.

[Sparked_26]

Ze Germans save their fully fledged robberies for the pure germans like Sturm, immigrants like culcay and Abraham, will get a half hearted robbery attempted with a few SD here and there

Can you imagine if Ottke was around now.

100% he'd hold a victory over Golovkin. Possibly Kovalev. GGG was definitely scratching around mainland Europe struggling for fights for a while they'd have got him at 168.

They'd have peeled that lad of the canvas and given him the win.

[mlac]

Can you imagine if Ottke was around now.

100% he'd hold a victory over Golovkin. Possibly Kovalev. GGG was definitely scratching around mainland Europe struggling for fights for a while they'd have got him at 168.

They'd have peeled that lad of the canvas and given him the win.

this is quite possibily some of the most unbelievable series of events i have ever seen, pure corruption.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iFIj2v2KRU smh

the reff was warning reid for LANDING PUNCHES

[moochi]

and also in Germany, you watch a couple fights and you think the home boy got a gift decision, you then hate him and you watch all of his following fights with a bias hate against them...i was guilty of that many times.

heaps of robberies happen in the USA as well, the only main difference is that most fights are between USA people (both fighters) and or USA based people ...and Mexicans.

once you start having Locals (house fighters) vs 'Fly Ins' from abroad, then you definitely see more and more bias on the judging side...and then you have Vegas, well that place is shocking.

this is why boxing has never been (and never will be) a mainstream support - it`s not really a proper sport with proper rules with a proper governing body.

for me the biggest litmus test was with the Ward vs Kovalev fight last year, i said to myself if that is scored correctly then it will be good...and then they did the biggest ever **** on the coffee table.

this is why UFC has taken over (even though they are a circus unto themselves) - they are still one sport controlled by one governing body and the best part is that most fights end in convincing fashion.

[Sparked_26]

and also in Germany, you watch a couple fights and you think the home boy got a gift decision, you then hate him and you watch all of his following fights with a bias hate against them...i was guilty of that many times.

heaps of robberies happen in the USA as well, the only main difference is that most fights are between USA people (both fighters) and or USA based people ...and Mexicans.

once you start having Locals (house fighters) vs 'Fly Ins' from abroad, then you definitely see more and more bias on the judging side...and then you have Vegas, well that place is shocking.

this is why boxing has never been (and never will be) a mainstream support - it`s not really a proper sport with proper rules with a proper governing body.

for me the biggest litmus test was with the Ward vs Kovalev fight last year, i said to myself if that is scored correctly then it will be good...and then they did the biggest ever **** on the coffee table.

this is why UFC has taken over (even though they are a circus unto themselves) - they are still one sport controlled by one governing body and the best part is that most fights end in convincing fashion.

I am definitely bias against that high guard German style. I just can't give it any credit.

Abraham exploding out of that high guard for the last 20 seconds used to drive me nuts.

Yeah it would be nice if we had a proper global governing body, Even over here domestically the British Boxing Board of a control have no power. They can withdraw licences but boxers will just apply to other European commissions and still box here.

And because of the way these alphabet soups are so money driven and whilst it benefits the UK I am unconvinced we see the best fighters even fight for titles especially vacant ones. Gavin McDonnell fighting for a WBC belt? Gavin did an incredible job really to be somewhat competitive I dunno how he got there. It seems like the sanctioning bodies are seeing the uk as a bit of a gravy train. Charlie Edwards fighting for a version of the world title in his 9th fight. I know he is a little fella and it can be quicker for the little men but still. I swear before it used to be like pulling teeth for our fighters to get these shots. Even the overmatched ones.

We definitely have better quality boxers today but the market is there to deliver the title shots. I know 154 is a talented division but with no big star if Canelo isn't there but I bet one of those sanctioning bodies finds a way to shoehorn Liam Smith or Liam Williams into a title shot.